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01-16-2026 | 05:26 AM

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Lowslung

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Originally Posted by BoilerUP

Physics says if you lean forward enough, you fall on your face.

And Confucius says if you lean forward enough, you’ll get violated from behind. Wait, maybe that wasn’t Confucius. Might’ve been my Italian cousin in Queens. Anyhoo, sage advice.

01-16-2026 | 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cat340

I spent 30 yrs at UPS. Best job I ever had, worst place I have ever worked. I spent 20 yrs on the MD-11, absolutely a wonderful aircraft. I knew the crew of 2976 very well. Flew with them over the years and had many great conversations with them. It is so very sad for them and there families.

Not sure how you can say that about the MD-11. One of the absolute worst airplanes ever manufactured. Its safety record alone speaks for itself. You have a 10X greater chance of a hull loss in a MD vs 747/777. And that is not even an apples to apples comparison. The 777 hull losses, except for the BA in LHR, were either terrorism or pilot error. The MD? Not so much. I wish they would put that thing out to pasture. It has killed far too many people.

01-16-2026 | 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BoilerUP

Physics says if you lean forward enough, you fall on your face.

This says a lot. Just flew with 3 captains, on my JS, that were all on JA's. They had all been here less than 10 years, complaining about not getting a contract and how the schedules are sooooo bad. I just rolled my eyes and did not say a word.
Too many people say one thing. Do the opposite.

01-16-2026 | 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JustUnderPar

I just rolled my eyes and did not say a word.

You should have not kept your opinions and thoughts to yourself.

They sure didn't.

01-16-2026 | 11:28 AM

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You should have not kept your opinions and thoughts to yourself.

They sure didn't.

Don't go down that road without union guidance. I simply tell them what I am and am not willing to do. Do not tell them what they should be doing. That may lead down a very unfriendly road.

01-16-2026 | 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by flyguy23

Don't go down that road without union guidance. I simply tell them what I am and am not willing to do. Do not tell them what they should be doing. That may lead down a very unfriendly road.

I never said tell others what to do. I am not sure where you got that?

01-16-2026 | 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by flyguy23

Don't go down that road without union guidance. I simply tell them what I am and am not willing to do. Do not tell them what they should be doing. That may lead down a very unfriendly road.

Telling them what to do, no. Voicing your point of view in a respectful manner, sure. Their feelings may get hurt, who cares. Union leadership isn’t going to hold your hand.