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Originally Posted by CactusCrew
(Post 2043480)
Or bury your head in the sand and act like a UPS job is the gold ring of aviation.
There are VERY different career levels at UPS depending on when one was hired. Nothing new or earth shattering about that. But the failure to recognize that a 1988 hire, a 1995 hire, a 2001 hire, a 2008 hire and a 2015 hire will achieve very different levels of compensation, benefits and job security is foolish. |
Originally Posted by Czech Airman
(Post 2043492)
Some of us can work the system and stay in a position that we desire even though senior, although non-qualified people are displaced. I like the system as it is now.... able to work a deal and stay in a domicile and jet that you desire without having to fly the line much.
What kind of a system circumvents seniority, and displaces people that someone deems "non-qualified"? An airline that doesn't have a union? |
Originally Posted by busdriver12
(Post 2043509)
What does that mean, "non-qualified people are displaced"?
What kind of a system circumvents seniority, and displaces people that someone deems "non-qualified"? An airline that doesn't have a union? |
The company did the same nonsense with realignment bids in Dec '14 and again in April '15, both times putting newhires, recently upgraded Captains, junior ANC pilots in all seats on the displacement block.
There were announcements of newhire classes after each realignment, so hopefully that trend continues...especially given that the company has been interviewing over peak and now into 2016. "Just another great UPS day" |
Originally Posted by DangaZone
(Post 2043529)
The company did the same nonsense with realignment bids in Dec '14 and again in April '15, both times putting newhires, recently upgraded Captains, junior ANC pilots in all seats on the displacement block.
There were announcements of newhire classes after each realignment, so hopefully that trend continues...especially given that the company has been interviewing over peak and now into 2016. "Just another great UPS day" |
Originally Posted by Czech Airman
(Post 2043524)
Some of us have special qualifications that make it desirable to keep us in our current fleet.
Most of us have been instructors or check airmen at some point in our flying careers. I don't think I would have considered myself, "the best of the best of the best," and others as non-qualified because of it.:eek: |
Originally Posted by DangaZone
(Post 2043529)
The company did the same nonsense with realignment bids in Dec '14 and again in April '15, both times putting newhires, recently upgraded Captains, junior ANC pilots in all seats on the displacement block.
There were announcements of newhire classes after each realignment, so hopefully that trend continues...especially given that the company has been interviewing over peak and now into 2016. "Just another great UPS day" |
Originally Posted by busdriver12
(Post 2043545)
So pilots that don't have these "special qualifications", according to you, they are "non-qualified"?
Most of us have been instructors or check airmen at some point in our flying careers. I don't think I would have considered myself, "the best of the best of the best," and others as non-qualified because of it.:eek: |
Originally Posted by MaxKts
(Post 2043550)
I think his "special qual" is called NURP!
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Originally Posted by busdriver12
(Post 2043549)
So they are allowed to displace people without regard to seniority?
Titanic deck chair rearrangement bids get published, removing positions from certain fleets/seats and adding positions to other fleets/seats. They identify the junior pilots in each position who will be subject to a Displacement bid if there aren't enough voluntary moves senior to them during the Realignment bid. I think some guys on property have 3 Initials in a single 12 month period due to the failure of Crew Planning to project manning needs more than the next bid ahead (or behind). At least "training is free"... |
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