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Old 06-01-2008, 10:05 AM
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Jungle, I have a few hours behind the 450 and 600. I have a question and I hope you dont make me feel or look like an idiot. The third picture has some sort of deal right behind the prop, What is this thing as I have never seen that before. Looks like some sort of cover of some type. I thought it might be a cover over an air cond. pulley off the crank, but I dont see the other pulley or belt mounted down below. I am baffled. Thanks ,, T.C.
T-Cart: My guess is that it is the aft part of a spinner assembly. In this case the spinner is off, but the photo above has the same assembly. My Grandpa's Howard had the same deal, while a friend's DGA, with no spinner at all, did not. My Grandpa also had a spinner on his cabin Waco (Jacobs R-755) for a time, with the same part. Eventually he took the spinner off (Waco's look better without them) and this assembly came off.

You probably have little experience with spinners on your 985's or 1340's because you were using them as god intended (working them) and not dolled up for fly-ins

Am I talking about the piece you are refering too? Also - Jungle's answer, if different than mine is obviously correct.
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by stinsonjr View Post
T-Cart: My guess is that it is the aft part of a spinner assembly. In this case the spinner is off, but the photo above has the same assembly. My Grandpa's Howard had the same deal, while a friend's DGA, with no spinner at all, did not. My Grandpa also had a spinner on his cabin Waco (Jacobs R-755) for a time, with the same part. Eventually he took the spinner off (Waco's look better without them) and this assembly came off.

You probably have little experience with spinners on your 985's or 1340's because you were using them as god intended (working them) and not dolled up for fly-ins

Am I talking about the piece you are refering too? Also - Jungle's answer, if different than mine is obviously correct.
Hi stinsonjr, That makes perfect sense. I bet you are correct. Ha, You are right, I never worked one with a spinner nor saw one with a spinner on it. Thanks,I really ought to get out of the country and go to town a little more often.
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:32 AM
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And yeah, I feel like an idiot now.
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And yeah, I feel like an idiot now.
You shouldn't - a blind squirrel will find an acorn now and then.

My question is, what practical value to spinners have in the first place? I believe they are meant to facilitate cooling, but it certainly did not work that way in the Waco.

Also, Air Tractors have speed rings I believe - did that help cooling? Did you guys running the big radials ever experience cooling problems in your flying?
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You shouldn't - a blind squirrel will find an acorn now and then.

My question is, what practical value to spinners have in the first place? I believe they are meant to facilitate cooling, but it certainly did not work that way in the Waco.

Also, Air Tractors have speed rings I believe - did that help cooling? Did you guys running the big radials ever experience cooling problems in your flying?
The only difference that I noticed with the speed ring was when you went to tighten a valve cover or do something to the valves themselves, it took longer. I never could tell a noticeable difference in speed. Spinner backing plate,,,Dangit!!! Oh, I never noticed any difference in cooling either. These "speedrings" on the ag planes were just that, A ring around the top of the valves. On the ag planes they were, to me, more trouble than they were worth.
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The only difference that I noticed with the speed ring was when you went to tighten a valve cover or do something to the valves themselves, it took longer. I never could tell a noticeable difference in speed. Spinner backing plate,,,Dangit!!! Oh, I never noticed any difference in cooling either. These "speedrings" on the ag planes were just that, A ring around the top of the valves. On the ag planes they were, to me, more trouble than they were worth.
Seems like one more thing to disassemble, and extra weight to boot, but I figured Leland Snow wouldn't put anything on an airplane that didn't need to be there - guess I was wrong in this case.
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:24 PM
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Alright T-Cart - Jungle is screwing with our minds now.

I am pretty sure I answered T-Cart correctly. I have NEVER seen a spinner assembly like this. Jungle, please explain if I was correct, and also how and why this spinner assembly works.
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by stinsonjr View Post
Alright T-Cart - Jungle is screwing with our minds now.

I am pretty sure I answered T-Cart correctly. I have NEVER seen a spinner assembly like this. Jungle, please explain if I was correct, and also how and why this spinner assembly works.
You were right about the spinner base on the red cowled engine. Just from casual observation it appears all the three blade props are running the large spinner and the two blade props run either this small spinner or none at all. I just know what I see and have nothing in the way of STCs or tech pubs to cite.
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I guess it is just personal taste, but with some exceptions (Spartan 7W, Staggerwing, Howards) I like the "naked" look with no spinner and the counter-weights hanging out. For spinners, I like the look of the larger spinner better than this - seems more substantial. Thanks for sharing Jungle - never saw a spinner like this!
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