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Old 06-29-2016, 05:46 AM
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I am a South African with a green card and would really love to live and work in the USA.
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8000 hrs TT
3000 of which on 737
Currently FO on 737 - South African domestic airline
No bachelors degree
My question is: do you think there is any chance I would get into a major US airline without local flying experience and a degree? Or should I just concentrate on a regional and try to gather the experience and perhaps a degree (time-permitting) and try for the majors in a few years time? I have applied to one major unsuccessfully and imagine the reasons to be the above? Any input/advice appreciated!
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You should probably post this over on the Major Airlines forum. You would get a more accurate response. Best you'll get here is conjecture and spite.
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You should probably post this over on the Major Airlines forum. You would get a more accurate response. Best you'll get here is conjecture and spite.
Thanks - will do
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I am a South African with a green card and would really love to live and work in the USA.
My credentials:
8000 hrs TT
3000 of which on 737
Currently FO on 737 - South African domestic airline
No bachelors degree
My question is: do you think there is any chance I would get into a major US airline without local flying experience and a degree? Or should I just concentrate on a regional and try to gather the experience and perhaps a degree (time-permitting) and try for the majors in a few years time? I have applied to one major unsuccessfully and imagine the reasons to be the above? Any input/advice appreciated!
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Dont just apply to one, and don't overlook the mid-majors and LCC's as a stepping stone/ place holder. Alaska, Sun Country, and Southwest all fly the 737. There are a few freight and charter operators that fly the 737 also, but if your goal is a legacy they will want to see US 121 time (probably). If you are ok with learning a new aircraft, then a few other LCC's are in the mix as well.
And if absolutely none of them pan out, any regional in the country would take you in two seconds.
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You'll probably need to covert to a FAA license with that kind of time I would like at like an LCC over a regional like frontier or spirit or JetBlue
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You'll get on with a regional, apply to the majors while you work on that degree.
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You'll probably need to covert to a FAA license with that kind of time I would like at like an LCC over a regional like frontier or spirit or JetBlue
Have FAA ATP and 737 on the license already.
Thanks for the advice!!

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Old 06-29-2016, 06:11 AM
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No degree = no major airline job
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Any chance? It's not zero but it might be close to absolute zero right now.

Someone posted that UA hired 3, of 1800+, without a four year degree. I'd guess being a non U.S. pilot without a four year degree has even worse odds than 3/1800. Out of their total applicants it's less than 3/10,000 vs. the 1800/10,000 that have been hired.

Apply to a U.S. regional airline that offers quick upgrades. Online colleges can give you a lot of college credits. You can get a degree from them in a couple of years. That will run concurrently with your exposure to U.S. 121 ops and perhaps upgrade.

I'd plan on a 3-5 year window to perhaps get a serious look with no guarantees of success.

Mountains are climbed one step at a time. Good luck.

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