What is atlas really looking for?
07-30-2014, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by andreas500
Go to Hiring forum, read the Atlas Air Hiring thread there, or "search" that thread for job fair, or OBAP, or WIA, and perhaps also look at the index that has been created and posted multiple times within that thread (or "search" for it, or go to post #6527), or use this link:
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/hi...ml#post1584847
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/hi...ml#post1584847
07-30-2014, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DegeReguard
Hey guys,
I have atlas's posted minimum qualifications and bearly more.
2200 Total Time and about 700 Turbine. All the turbine time is EMB-145 SIC.
I have no degree, and only 1 year expirence at a 121 carrier flying the EMB-145.... as far away from heavy's as possible in a jet I think lol.
Anyway, do I actually have a shot or is there a higher expirence bracket out there thats more their target?
I hear they hire regional FO's and are losing captains to domestic legacy carriers due to familys, schedules, pay, and quality of life. Is that true?
Anyone have some links to sample resumes/templates I can base my resume off of? My current 121 resume format sucks in my opinion and i'd like to work up a shiny new one.
I have atlas's posted minimum qualifications and bearly more.
2200 Total Time and about 700 Turbine. All the turbine time is EMB-145 SIC.
I have no degree, and only 1 year expirence at a 121 carrier flying the EMB-145.... as far away from heavy's as possible in a jet I think lol.
Anyway, do I actually have a shot or is there a higher expirence bracket out there thats more their target?
I hear they hire regional FO's and are losing captains to domestic legacy carriers due to familys, schedules, pay, and quality of life. Is that true?
Anyone have some links to sample resumes/templates I can base my resume off of? My current 121 resume format sucks in my opinion and i'd like to work up a shiny new one.
07-30-2014, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JerkStore
Would it be worth moving from a regional jet to an Atlas heavy? Would that accelerate getting a job with a legacy even though all my time (mil heavy & regional CRJ) is SIC? I understand the pay is obviously better, but the schedule will be brutal! Would it be worth it to be away from the family?
07-31-2014, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JerkStore
Would it be worth moving from a regional jet to an Atlas heavy? Would that accelerate getting a job with a legacy even though all my time (mil heavy & regional CRJ) is SIC? I understand the pay is obviously better, but the schedule will be brutal! Would it be worth it to be away from the family?
You have to understand that even though Atlas flies 747's, they are really the cargo equivalent of the majors, in that they provide secondary lift at a low price. I'm sure that they generate some of their own revenue, but much is tied to other companies, just like a regional. And just like a regional, there is some risk in that.
That said, I learned a long time ago, and I caution others, that you need to take each job offer you get as though it is the last one you will ever get. If you can live with that for the rest of your (aviation) career, then go for it on the merits of that company alone, be it Atlas, Mesa, or whatever legacy you get hired by.
07-31-2014, 11:25 AM
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I really can't recommend this place in its current state to RJ captains. If you want to go to a major just stay where you're at and wait for the majors to call. Coming here will get you a type and some fun flying but you'll make more $$, have better retirement matching, and be home more if you stick at your regional. Hopefully that'll change with our next contract but that's years down the road.
07-31-2014, 11:39 AM
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How?
Originally Posted by CandlerKid
I really can't recommend this place in its current state to RJ captains. If you want to go to a major just stay where you're at and wait for the majors to call. Coming here will get you a type and some fun flying but you'll make more $$, have better retirement matching, and be home more if you stick at your regional. Hopefully that'll change with our next contract but that's years down the road.
You also need to consider how much more he may make by getting to Atlas sooner than by waiting a few years for a major to call him.
Quality of life, that's different.
07-31-2014, 12:05 PM
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I'm on 4th year pay on the 74. I don't do VX days or accept extensions like 95% of the group, so I make the bare minimum. They send me home on R1 and I get 62 hours at least 50% of the time. I'm on pace for like 90k this year. If an RJ captain is making $100 an hour and crediting 90-100 a month plus getting 2x as much 401k donations than he/she will take a massive paycut for years here. Especially on the 767. Fly more than 17 and stuff like that then sure, you'd do alright here. I'm basing this off of the RJ person coming here and leaving in 2 years to delta or something, not staying here long term.
07-31-2014, 12:18 PM
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What is atlas really looking for?
Well, I'm a 2nd year 767 FO and I'm on track for 85k (per diem not included). Granted, I do pick up open time here or there (about 8 days this year so far), but I don't normally go out of my way. Average credit per month hangs around 72-75.
Most RJ captains will be picking up a lot more often (and sacrificing QOL) to beat that, especially compared to what they'd make if they come to the 747. I think it's a good step.
Most RJ captains will be picking up a lot more often (and sacrificing QOL) to beat that, especially compared to what they'd make if they come to the 747. I think it's a good step.
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07-31-2014, 03:32 PM
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I would also say that a regional pilot might:
-Come to Atlas and love it and want to stay (and make a lot more money long-term)
-Or come and get a type rating (either aircraft) and flight experience that would vastly improve their resume and might be worth what some would consider to be a QOL hit and perhaps some pay loss if that were indeed the case.
I think there are a lot of good comments on here regarding this, but this is a different type of flying than regionals. Some folks might think it's a huge QOL increase and others might hate it. Depends on your personal perspective.
-Come to Atlas and love it and want to stay (and make a lot more money long-term)
-Or come and get a type rating (either aircraft) and flight experience that would vastly improve their resume and might be worth what some would consider to be a QOL hit and perhaps some pay loss if that were indeed the case.
I think there are a lot of good comments on here regarding this, but this is a different type of flying than regionals. Some folks might think it's a huge QOL increase and others might hate it. Depends on your personal perspective.
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