Allegiant vs Republic
09-02-2014, 12:35 PM
#131
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Two thoughts: other carriers have had to wait 5-6 years to get a contract, so 2-3 doesn't mean anything. As for the company dithering, they will do that for a while, and then put something meaningful enough on the table that the mediator has back down...for a while.
Alter ego operation: it could happen. GoJet and Freedom were just that. I'm not saying it would be easy, but it would be much easier than getting pilots to cross an actual picket line.
I wish you guys the best, but it's likely to get worse before it gets better.
Alter ego operation: it could happen. GoJet and Freedom were just that. I'm not saying it would be easy, but it would be much easier than getting pilots to cross an actual picket line.
I wish you guys the best, but it's likely to get worse before it gets better.
09-02-2014, 01:21 PM
#132
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Originally Posted by OnCenterline
Alter ego operation: it could happen. GoJet and Freedom were just that. I'm not saying it would be easy, but it would be much easier than getting pilots to cross an actual picket line.
Laughable, an alter ego, parallel operation would share the same fate as al-Maliki’s Baghdad government.
Last edited by Xbone; 09-02-2014 at 01:32 PM.
09-02-2014, 01:39 PM
#133
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It won't take 5-6 years to get a contract because it CAN'T. With the constant exodus of pilots and the inability to train people fast enough, this method of doing business is unsustainable. If the present course is unaltered, there will either be an FAA-imposed cessation of operations or (heaven forbid) a cessation that results from a disaster with loss of life. The current pilots are what's keeping the second scenario from unfolding. As these pilots leave for better-paying pastures and the only pilots we can attract have questionable experience levels, I fear the worst.
09-02-2014, 03:03 PM
#136
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Originally Posted by Xbone
Doesn’t matter who, or how many pilots are out there ready to replace us. This training department couldn’t do it.
09-02-2014, 03:48 PM
#139
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Originally Posted by dawgdriver
The thought has occurred to me that F&H solutions or AAY management posts in these forums, disguised as average Joe, been-there-done-that pilots.
I guess if I were them, I probably would too. Great propaganda plugs!
I guess if I were them, I probably would too. Great propaganda plugs!
G4 Pilots 1, F&H remf’s 0. Before the year is up, will be 2 & 0. Momentum baby!
09-02-2014, 06:14 PM
#140
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To answer the original question, I say republic.
How sad is that? Because no matter how long it takes to get a contract, we will still have the same con artists and muddle-managers running this company. It was a great concept: buy a bunch of cheap old airplanes, run it to places that nobody else goes, use eager, cheap labor and then sell it. It's been tried before and had it not been for an accident ValuJet would still be here.
To those looking to come here, stay away for your own good. To those that are already here, take your experience and type ratings and go. There are too many other airlines that respect and reward your skill set Airlines that don't require you to carry the incompetence that comes with Allegiant's profit-at-all-cost business model.
How sad is that? Because no matter how long it takes to get a contract, we will still have the same con artists and muddle-managers running this company. It was a great concept: buy a bunch of cheap old airplanes, run it to places that nobody else goes, use eager, cheap labor and then sell it. It's been tried before and had it not been for an accident ValuJet would still be here.
To those looking to come here, stay away for your own good. To those that are already here, take your experience and type ratings and go. There are too many other airlines that respect and reward your skill set Airlines that don't require you to carry the incompetence that comes with Allegiant's profit-at-all-cost business model.
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