ATP Written Currency
#1
ATP Written Currency
I took my ATP written in 2003 and received a 737 type-rating and ATP on my initial qualification eval on the C-40 (B737NG). I have flown the C-40 since that time and remained current by USAF guidelines.
I assume that since I am not employed by a Part 121 carrier, it has expired. Does that check?
I assume that since I am not employed by a Part 121 carrier, it has expired. Does that check?
#3
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I took my ATP written in 2003 and received a 737 type-rating and ATP on my initial qualification eval on the C-40 (B737NG). I have flown the C-40 since that time and remained current by USAF guidelines.
I assume that since I am not employed by a Part 121 carrier, it has expired. Does that check?
I assume that since I am not employed by a Part 121 carrier, it has expired. Does that check?
#4
That makes sense. I was trying to figure out how to answer the question on AirlineApps so I could check the box appropriately.
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That makes sense. I was trying to figure out how to answer the question on AirlineApps so I could check the box appropriately.
#8
61.39(b) Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraphs (a)(1) and (2) of this section, an applicant for an airline transport pilot certificate ... may take the practical test for that certificate or rating with an expired knowledge test report, provided that the applicant:
(1) Is employed as a flight crewmember by a certificate holder under part 121, 125, or 135 of this chapter at the time of the practical test and has satisfactorily accomplished that operator's approved--
(i) Pilot in command aircraft qualification training program ...and
(ii) Qualification training requirements appropriate to the certificate and rating sought; or
[(2) Is employed by the U.S. Armed Forces as a flight crewmember in U.S. military air transport operations at the time of the practical test and has completed the pilot in command aircraft qualification training program that is appropriate to the pilot certificate and rating sought.]
So the answer is, it depends. If you have an "old" written and are upgrading through the training program of an air carrier that you work for you're covered. If you work for an air carrier but decide to upgrade on your own outside of work you'll need a current written. And if you you don't work for an air carrier you'll need a current written.
(1) Is employed as a flight crewmember by a certificate holder under part 121, 125, or 135 of this chapter at the time of the practical test and has satisfactorily accomplished that operator's approved--
(i) Pilot in command aircraft qualification training program ...and
(ii) Qualification training requirements appropriate to the certificate and rating sought; or
[(2) Is employed by the U.S. Armed Forces as a flight crewmember in U.S. military air transport operations at the time of the practical test and has completed the pilot in command aircraft qualification training program that is appropriate to the pilot certificate and rating sought.]
So the answer is, it depends. If you have an "old" written and are upgrading through the training program of an air carrier that you work for you're covered. If you work for an air carrier but decide to upgrade on your own outside of work you'll need a current written. And if you you don't work for an air carrier you'll need a current written.
#9
It has absolutely nothing to do with currency at all.
There are two types of ATP written:
Not Expired: Can be used for the checkride under any circumstances.
Expired: Can only be used at a 121 / 135 operation (or military transport equivalent)
You don't have to be current, stay current, be continuously employed, stay at the airline where you took the test, or any of the other old wives tales.
An airline may require a current atp written to get hired, but that's not regulatory.
#10
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It has absolutely nothing to do with currency at all.
There are two types of ATP written:
Not Expired: Can be used for the checkride under any circumstances.
Expired: Can only be used at a 121 / 135 operation (or military transport equivalent)
You don't have to be current, stay current, be continuously employed, stay at the airline where you took the test, or any of the other old wives tales.
An airline may require a current atp written to get hired, but that's not regulatory.
There are two types of ATP written:
Not Expired: Can be used for the checkride under any circumstances.
Expired: Can only be used at a 121 / 135 operation (or military transport equivalent)
You don't have to be current, stay current, be continuously employed, stay at the airline where you took the test, or any of the other old wives tales.
An airline may require a current atp written to get hired, but that's not regulatory.
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