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02-13-2015, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyBoyd
Agreed, but that batting order is probably communicated to the team...and the (new) lead off hitter, and the top of the order for that matter, are saying no thank you.
02-13-2015, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BDGERJMN
I think the 24 hour thing you mention isn't standard across the board and maybe a VR thing? For example, commands within TSW have been directed to nominate their batting order internally and when their number comes up its a done deal. While some COs might be giving guys in their command the 24 hour grace. We are not giving our folks the option of IRR in 24 hours because all that does is screw the guy behind him in the batting order.
What Boyd said. No, it isn't standard and is a VR thing as far as I know. The batting order is published and everyone knows the score. 24 hours to make the decision and then the next in line.
02-13-2015, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MIG15
I heard guys are dropping like flys to the IRR. Can anyone validate this rumor?
To summarize, if you want to quit you have to do it before the IA comes down. Once the mob drops, if your number is called you're going.
03-06-2015, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
What Boyd said. No, it isn't standard and is a VR thing as far as I know. The batting order is published and everyone knows the score. 24 hours to make the decision and then the next in line.
Chances of getting an IA in the IRR are near 0. Finishing a few years doing coloring books to collect the 60 retirement should be a no brainer if you don't want the potential IA tag as an active selres.
03-06-2015, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by flyforgolf
Assuming there is a batting order and a generic fill then "the man" has options. However, if you get a by name mob....congrats on deployment.
Chances of getting an IA in the IRR are near 0. Finishing a few years doing coloring books to collect the 60 retirement should be a no brainer if you don't want the potential IA tag as an active selres.
Chances of getting an IA in the IRR are near 0. Finishing a few years doing coloring books to collect the 60 retirement should be a no brainer if you don't want the potential IA tag as an active selres.
Maybe I'm missing something in what you're trying to say?
When the RMP was in play, names were submitted to FFC based on a priority at the CNRFC N35 level, and those business rules were clearly promulgated. The absence of RMP now puts it in the hand of SELRES CO's within their units to submit names based on, in the case of aviation commands, internal batting order.
I will ask some friends who are in the traditional reserve world to see how they are doing business in their commands but I have never heard of a BNR for a MOB.
03-06-2015, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BDGERJMN
By name MOB? Where and when does that happen? CNRFC has their own vetting process but the gaining command down range doesn't have the ability to ask for a 'name', it just doesn't work that way.
Maybe I'm missing something in what you're trying to say?
When the RMP was in play, names were submitted to FFC based on a priority at the CNRFC N35 level, and those business rules were clearly promulgated. The absence of RMP now puts it in the hand of SELRES CO's within their units to submit names based on, in the case of aviation commands, internal batting order.
I will ask some friends who are in the traditional reserve world to see how they are doing business in their commands but I have never heard of a BNR for a MOB.
Maybe I'm missing something in what you're trying to say?
When the RMP was in play, names were submitted to FFC based on a priority at the CNRFC N35 level, and those business rules were clearly promulgated. The absence of RMP now puts it in the hand of SELRES CO's within their units to submit names based on, in the case of aviation commands, internal batting order.
I will ask some friends who are in the traditional reserve world to see how they are doing business in their commands but I have never heard of a BNR for a MOB.
03-06-2015, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by flyforgolf
BNR request in the fact that a name is selected at "random" from CNRFC, with or without regard to the RMP, and usually outside the knowledge of the SELRES CO. Mob's for VR squadrons members can come for by a number anyone can fill, or by an unlucky name.
I would say though that scenario is not the case across the CNAFR pillar and more prevalent in the traditional reserve world. CNAFR made a conscious effort to allow COs to give names when their commodores/CAG were tasked with providing a member for a MOB.
03-07-2015, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BDGERJMN
Ok, I buy that CNRFC absent the RMP can nominate a name based on square peg into a round hole criteria(pun intended), but that's not a BNR, that's the Reserve force doing its job and R## a member when they are IN LAR for a MOB, trust me I have been on the receiving end of the latter twice. BNR is a specific request by the gaining command for a particular person, but I see your point.
I would say though that scenario is not the case across the CNAFR pillar and more prevalent in the traditional reserve world. CNAFR made a conscious effort to allow COs to give names when their commodores/CAG were tasked with providing a member for a MOB.
I would say though that scenario is not the case across the CNAFR pillar and more prevalent in the traditional reserve world. CNAFR made a conscious effort to allow COs to give names when their commodores/CAG were tasked with providing a member for a MOB.
Absent the RMP, CNRFC is doing it's job when it picks folks out the blue. RMP was nice but there was overhead associated with generating it and then prepping the named members. Essentially now we're all on the RMP, unless you mobed within five year s or have a medical issue.
03-07-2015, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BDGERJMN
I would say though that scenario is not the case across the CNAFR pillar and more prevalent in the traditional reserve world. CNAFR made a conscious effort to allow COs to give names when their commodores/CAG were tasked with providing a member for a MOB.
03-08-2015, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by flyforgolf
Historically, CNAFR personnel were very good at staying out of the involuntary Mob status due to the operations/production value they provide to the active side. That all hit the fan about 4 years ago when CNR roger upped to taking a large portion of IA's previously filled by the active side. No one in selres status was untouchable anymore. CNAFR folks were now showing up on the MOB list (and getting tagged) just like the rest of the force.
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