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Old 11-05-2016, 08:10 AM
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The reserves is VERY unit dependent on how much you can get orders wise.. Short of a year plus mobilization to places hot and sandy, and not flying, you're not getting anything beyond 48 drills and 14 days AT out of a lot of units these days.
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Consider Guard/Reserves. You could get token employment with a regional for the 121 box-checking, then mil drop the snot out of it.
Careful with that. The majors have wised up, if they see you mil-dropping your entire regional career they'll assume you'll do the same during your first year(s) with them.
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The reserves is VERY unit dependent on how much you can get orders wise.. Short of a year plus mobilization to places hot and sandy, and not flying, you're not getting anything beyond 48 drills and 14 days AT out of a lot of units these days.
This is the case for most Navy non-hardware units.

Hardware units should have more. Aviation units probably spread those around among their members. Non-aviation hardware units will probably allocate a lot of drills/ADT to whoever has the bandwidth to do the work.

A few large non-hardware, non-aviation units have extra drills/ADT available. Since most navy SELRES are non-pilots with 9-5 jobs, if you're willing to do the work you could score a lot of those drills. Less than 10% of my unit consumes almost all of our extra drills/ADT (typically folks in grad school or between civilian jobs).
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How long you've been at the regional? "A year."
But you only have 200 hrs....
Sounds like a conversation with first year PSA and Expressjet friends who weren't senior enough to hold a line.
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Careful with that. The majors have wised up, if they see you mil-dropping your entire regional career they'll assume you'll do the same during your first year(s) with them.
So? It's not illegal. I'm not advocating people go pick up a 3-year AGR the day they get off their last IOE leg (and I've known two people who have done just that this year mind you, at both LAA and SW), but mil-drop on a monthly basis is an outright necessity in order to remain current and qualified in your Reserve job, and as such it's completely legal and in no way an abuse of the system. Long-tour MLOA is not the same as mil-drop, just so we understand what we're talking about.

So they can ASSume all they want. Fix first year pay and that fear may be ameliorated on their part. Or they can shut off the spigot to non-retired/non-separated SELRES, which is what you seem to insinuate. Good luck with the USERRA lawsuits. They'll cut off an entire and grossly targeted demographic in the same hiring environment that has them cannibalizing their own WO feed in the first place? . Meh, I'll gladly take that bet.
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Not an airline, but I've been told at previous jobs that I would not have been hired if they knew I was a reservist.

Airlines in particular and many other industries benefit from military trained people, from pilots to nuclear reactor operators to just having a clearance on day one.

But a lot of middle manager types hate having to work around mil leave.

The sad part, the two worst people I've had working under me that I had to tell to back off on the reservists, were retired active duty and retired AGR.

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So? It's not illegal. I'm not advocating people go pick up a 3-year AGR the day they get off their last IOE leg (and I've known two people who have done just that this year mind you, at both LAA and SW), but mil-drop on a monthly basis is an outright necessity in order to remain current and qualified in your Reserve job, and as such it's completely legal and in no way an abuse of the system. Long-tour MLOA is not the same as mil-drop, just so we understand what we're talking about.

So they can ASSume all they want. Fix first year pay and that fear may be ameliorated on their part. Or they can shut off the spigot to non-retired/non-separated SELRES, which is what you seem to insinuate. Good luck with the USERRA lawsuits. They'll cut off an entire and grossly targeted demographic in the same hiring environment that has them cannibalizing their own WO feed in the first place? . Meh, I'll gladly take that bet.
I said "mil drop your entire regional career"

I meant intentional extensive mil drop above and beyond "normal" monthly participation. They know it when they see it.

As far as them holding it against you...

What's right, what's legal, what's fair, what's enforceable, and what they can get away with are all different things.

I've been NR unit leadership for many years, have plenty of airline pilots working for me, and plenty of pilots in career transition. I've seen it all, and the airlines are definitely being more aggressive re. USERRA in the last couple of years.

I think with the wars winding down they are less concerned with public backlash from high visibility law suits.
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Before you jump with both feet into the regional life you might consider Spirit, JB, Allegiant, Frontier, and Virgin; or the cargo life with Atlas, Southern, ABX, etc. I would hit a job fair and see if you can get a bite.
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