Who sets the altitude pre-selector?
10-21-2014, 03:18 PM
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Who sets the altitude pre-selector?
I have worked at companies that have the PF set the altitude pre-selector when the AP is on, and I have worked at companies that have the PM set the altitude pre-selector when the AP is on. I personally have a preference and I am trying to get my current company to change, but I before I waste too much energy on it, I wanted to see where others in the industry stand.
Personally, I prefer the PF to set the altitude pre-selector since that person is controlling the rest of the flight guidance control panel. It is still important for both pilots to verify and agree on the altitude assignment, but I think it is awkward when two pilots are effectively flying the plane.
So please chime in and tell me what who sets the altitude pre-selector at the company you work for and what your preference is.
Personally, I prefer the PF to set the altitude pre-selector since that person is controlling the rest of the flight guidance control panel. It is still important for both pilots to verify and agree on the altitude assignment, but I think it is awkward when two pilots are effectively flying the plane.
So please chime in and tell me what who sets the altitude pre-selector at the company you work for and what your preference is.
10-21-2014, 03:26 PM
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At Expressjet(ASA) the PF sets the altitude selector whilst the autopilot is engaged and the PM verifies the altitude thereafter. When the autopilot is disengaged the PM sets the altitude selector and controls the flight guidance control panel and the PF verifies altitudes. Also of note but not quite related, officially our FOM policy requires the PM to also control the FMS once below 10,000 MSL regardless of Auto Pilot selection so that the PF is always heads up.
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10-21-2014, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
I have worked at companies that have the PF set the altitude pre-selector when the AP is on, and I have worked at companies that have the PM set the altitude pre-selector when the AP is on. I personally have a preference and I am trying to get my current company to change, but I before I waste too much energy on it, I wanted to see where others in the industry stand.
Personally, I prefer the PF to set the altitude pre-selector since that person is controlling the rest of the flight guidance control panel. It is still important for both pilots to verify and agree on the altitude assignment, but I think it is awkward when two pilots are effectively flying the plane.
So please chime in and tell me what who sets the altitude pre-selector at the company you work for and what your preference is.
Personally, I prefer the PF to set the altitude pre-selector since that person is controlling the rest of the flight guidance control panel. It is still important for both pilots to verify and agree on the altitude assignment, but I think it is awkward when two pilots are effectively flying the plane.
So please chime in and tell me what who sets the altitude pre-selector at the company you work for and what your preference is.
The argument I would make is, if the autopilot is engaged and you feel that the PF should make all changes regarding flight, shouldn't you also be lobbying to set flaps and gear?
10-21-2014, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bassman1985
PF with AP on, PM when hand-flying. Simple, effective. Can't figure why PM would do it with the AP on.
10-21-2014, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo
I agree. The only one I ever saw do it differently was Pinnacle. But they did a few things weird such as shutting the flight deck door before the boarding door. Chime 5 minutes prior to landing to name a few
10-21-2014, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
That person isn't flying the airplane unless the airplane is beginning to level off. The knob doesn't control any flight characteristics of flying the airplane.
The argument I would make is, if the autopilot is engaged and you feel that the PF should make all changes regarding flight, shouldn't you also be lobbying to set flaps and gear?
The argument I would make is, if the autopilot is engaged and you feel that the PF should make all changes regarding flight, shouldn't you also be lobbying to set flaps and gear?
My argument would be why not have the PM also set the heading bug to "keep both pilots in the loop." A pilot can mess up a heading just as much as an altitude.
10-21-2014, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
I disagree. During the approach ATC usually gives you an altitude assignment right at level off. Also, if it is set incorrectly near the level off, then you may over shoot.
My argument would be why not have the PM also set the heading bug to "keep both pilots in the loop." A pilot can mess up a heading just as much as an altitude.
My argument would be why not have the PM also set the heading bug to "keep both pilots in the loop." A pilot can mess up a heading just as much as an altitude.
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