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01-29-2015, 08:59 AM

#11

gatorbuc99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by snippercr

AAG has PSA and their 8 month upgrade and United has Trans states with their CQFO program.

At some point that won't be the case, however, and it'll take pay/benefits to attract pilots.

01-29-2015, 09:02 AM

#12

Farmlover

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Psa ship has sailed. They are telling new hires 1.5 to 2 yrs for upgrade.
yes hiring into the 200, they are looking into pulling some back out of the sandbox here this spring I hear.

01-29-2015, 09:10 AM

#13

Urbandrone

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Position: CRJ 200 CA

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What is the time to a line at Endeavor now? I know upgrade is a decade, but for QOL I see nothing more important than a schedule.

01-29-2015, 09:26 AM

#14

LostTime

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Another 200 went to kingman yesterday, that's 4 in the last week.

01-29-2015, 09:37 AM

#15

Jetdriver7

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Position: 320 FO

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lone Palm

Yes and yes. It will be a pilot's market for the foreseeable future.

Take that quote and look whats been going on in every company. Taking concessions for the hope of new metal. AAG is even looking for concessions at mainline. When someone that says that actually walks the walk, get back to me.

01-29-2015, 10:01 AM

#16

Mx212

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LostTime

Another 200 went to kingman yesterday, that's 4 in the last week.

Haha, "As many as we can staff." Same ship, different day. The company's a joke. With all their carrots, they'd be better off selling them at the farmers market.

01-29-2015, 10:13 AM

#17

FirstClass

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What's more important, cash or Captain time?

01-29-2015, 10:14 AM

#18

FirstClass

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Farmlover

Psa ship has sailed. They are telling new hires 1.5 to 2 yrs for upgrade.

Incorrect.

01-29-2015, 10:15 AM

#19

Doogi

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Position: RJ FO

Posts: 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farmlover

Psa ship has sailed. They are telling new hires 1.5 to 2 yrs for upgrade.
yes hiring into the 200, they are looking into pulling some back out of the sandbox here this spring I hear.

This is partially true. The 1.5 to 2 year upgrade is only true for the pilots who have no prior 121 time and certain Military/135 time to count towards the 1000 SIC requirement. For those of us who meet the 1000 SIC requirement or have the eligible Military/135 time upgrade is currently at 8-10 months and continues to drop. Currently, new-hire training is about 4 months from start to finish, so you won't be on the line very long before you are right back in upgrade training.