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11-30-2016, 04:52 AM

#21

chrisreedrules

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Position: CRJ FO

Posts: 4,599

Quote:

Originally Posted by sflpilot

It is still a b scale and should not be tolerated.

Tell that to the mainline geezers who sold scope for pay.

11-30-2016, 04:55 AM

#22

Simpsons

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Originally Posted by Gman007

So I am still trying to decide where to go tell me if this is correct:

Piedmont:

Pro's
Faster Upgrade 12 - 15 months according to their website
Chance to earn more $$$ by flying extra when possible.
Faster upgrade also means more $$$ sooner
Very short reserve times

Con's
Philadelphia is their only base for the 145. I don't want to commute so I would have to move there and I am not a big fan of Phili.
Bonus is only $16200

Envoy
Pro's
Better bases (I wouldn't mind living on ORD or DFW)
Bonus is $22000

Con's
Long reserve times
Longer upgrade (2.5 years according to Envoy's website)
Horrible schedule (according to the Envoy thread)

I'm sure the 2.5 upgrade is a projection for someone hired now, but what is the current most junior captain at?

Never mind saw it on APC. 5 years

12-02-2016, 01:00 PM

#23

PiedmontFlyer

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Posts: 92

Piedmont awarded ERJ145 captain to July 2016 new hire.

12-02-2016, 01:04 PM

#24

E175 Driver

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Position: E175

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PiedmontFlyer

Piedmont awarded ERJ145 captain to July 2016 new hire.

In old envoy planes! Funny.

12-02-2016, 01:09 PM

#25

Jet Jockey 00

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Actually, we just got an email that Piedmont is getting 175's

12-02-2016, 02:07 PM

#26

Smutter

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gman007

Envoy upgrade is 6+ yrs, horrible would imply something good about our schedules, horrible seems to nice.

12-02-2016, 05:12 PM

#27

stillageek

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Jockey 00

Actually, we just got an email that Piedmont is getting 175's

Post the email

12-02-2016, 07:48 PM

#28

Outof410

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Joined APC: Feb 2015

Position: A320

Posts: 317

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Jockey 00

Actually, we just got an email that Piedmont is getting 175's

Not anytime soon

12-03-2016, 03:16 AM

#29

daOldMan

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PDT will never get 175s. Why would AAG waste millions of dollars a month on training, maintenance, management, and other costs? AAG is wisely moving flying around based on fleet type to reduce costs and be more efficient. In the end, PSA will fly the CRJs, Envoy will fly the EJets, and PDT will fly the 145's.

Once the fuel prices rise again and the market tanks, the 50 seaters will find themselves parked in the desert somewhere.

12-03-2016, 04:26 AM

#30

Virga show

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Smutter

Envoy upgrade is 6+ yrs, horrible would imply something good about our schedules, horrible seems to nice.

Right now it is 6 years at Envoy but with 60 to 70 NH a month and 30 Capt leaving a month that number should drop drastically. We are at the beginning of going from stagnation to steady movement. In 6 months to a year, if it is still 6 years upgrade we are in trouble. Common sense says that's not possible for it to stay 6 years as long as we keep hiring pilots and pilots keep flowing to AA.