The previous thread was over a year old and gives mobile users a lot of redirects so I thought I would start a new thread with some info about Envoy.

Great things are happening at Envoy. The sky is the limit.

Flow/Upgrade – AA projecting 750 new hires next year. Expect 360 to 400 to flow in 2017 and an additional 360 in 2018 for a total of close to 800 over two years alone. A new hire can expect to flow to AA in just over 5 years.

Upgrade is projected at 2.5 to 3 years and is currently dropping fast. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see upgrades at less than 2 years in the near future.

New hires. Currently hiring like gangbusters. The last class had 41. Hiring projections for 2017 are in the 750 range. New hires are now eligible for bonuses that bring total first year compensation to 60k.

If you are looking at Envoy, now is the time. Get in on the front of the wave and reap the benefits of rapid seniority advancement and the AA flow.

 

Are they running two classes a month?

 

Why start a new one? This ones very active still.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/regional/91561-new-envoy-information-628.html

 

The last class had 28... not 41.

 

Yes, two classes per month. Hiring up to 70 plus each month.

 

Sorry, got my numbers crossed.

 

Nice, kudos to your recruitment team. Keep up the good work!

 

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. Laying it on thick. I still think Envoy is a good place to come, BUT....yeah....Koolaide much?

 

Upgrades are still over 6yrs, and flow isn't 5.5 yrs. While it may happen, it hasn't happened yet, so don't sell it like it has.

Have you quit acting like a new hire already, and just taken over being cr700 since you're him.


HAS THE COMPANY FIXED THE SCHEDULES YET? Answer is no.

So yes we are hiring a lot, Qol still sucks here, and were coming up on the yearly promise of, things will be better in January. So far that has failed the last two years, and the last email from the union said he had hope it might get a little better. Talking to the reps the crj schedules don't have many available fixes and will remain rough.

While I disagree with how you do sell lies on here, envoy does have some upside, but that upside is in comparison only to, republic, go jet, Mesa.

A newhire here will always remember his first year as the best. After first yr. Take a pay cut till upgrade.

Continue on cr700

 

Dacuj,

The flow numbers for 2017 seem to be off...50% of 750 is 375. I don't know where the 400 flows number is coming from, but to project that many is pretty reckless, especially since it is only 35% of every new hire class for the protected pilots until the 40th 175 is delivered. That will coincide closely with the end of the 824, yes, but still only adds up to 375 if all goes well. With staffing at critical levels in many statuses still, it would shock me if mgmt let any more than the minimum go per month.

I am not saying ENY is a bad place, I am, however, questioning your numbers inflation. Also, as someone has pointed out already, the last class had 28, not 41.

I realize your role here is to represent the good in ENY, but please represent it honestly and correctly.