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01-02-2017, 04:37 PM

#481

Jersdawg

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Posts: 674

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dacuj

A lot of this stuff you are listing is false. Has it happened to you? I can guarantee you that if anyone has had any of this happen, it's most likely outside the norm and not a regular occurrence.

Some of this you are posting is very inflammatory. With your screen name, I think it would be quite easy for you to be found. You might find yourself on a watch list and get yourself in more trouble than you can get yourself out of. You might consider parking the attitude and be more careful.

Unreal. Can you believe this guy!!?

01-02-2017, 05:20 PM

#482

402FreightDog

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Ltfo ?

Just curious about LTFO. I gather it means low time First Officer, but what is the significance? When is it a problem?

01-02-2017, 07:56 PM

#483

moon

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Originally Posted by 402FreightDog

Just curious about LTFO. I gather it means low time First Officer, but what is the significance? When is it a problem?

The comany disregarded seniority to build up pilots hours to 1500 priot to the FAA deadline, by building low time pilots high time lines and subjecting senior FOs to reserve and terrible schedules. A grievance was filed and the arbitrator ruled in our favor and awarded everyone affected some money and 2 return days to be removed from flying. Since thst ruling our staffing has been bad and the company has blanket denied people from utilizing the return days in most bases and statuses. Won't affect any new hires, but something that is frustrating to those affected.

01-02-2017, 09:03 PM

#484

TrinityDawn

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Position: Violin on the Envoy-tanic

Posts: 175

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dacuj

A lot of this stuff you are listing is false. Has it happened to you? I can guarantee you that if anyone has had any of this happen, it's most likely outside the norm and not a regular occurrence.

Unbelieveable.

Quote:

Some of this you are posting is very inflammatory. With your screen name, I think it would be quite easy for you to be found. You might find yourself on a watch list and get yourself in more trouble than you can get yourself out of. You might consider parking the attitude and be more careful.

You deserve either troll of the month award, or F+H Solutions employee of the month award.

01-02-2017, 10:32 PM

#485

LongTimeListenr

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Posts: 122

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrinityDawn

I don't have the contract in front of me for the numbers, but basically you have to have two flights that can get you to work for sign in, and have been on the standby list trying to get on both, to be considered a "good faith" effort for the commuter policy. I'll have to look up the details for you later tonight.

Well, that has changed recently. Supposedly it's now 4 sick calls within a rolling 12 month period gets you a step one advisory. Unfortunately it's actual calls, and not a block of days, so if you're sick you just have to call out for the whole trip rather than individual days. The whole thing is rediculous, because sick time is part of the compensation negotiated in our CBA. If you burn more sick time than you have, you lose pay, so the company really shouldn't care, but it's just part of the screw tightening.

You are incorrect about blocks of days vs calls with sick time. I'm walking proof that the pure number of calls doesn't matter; just the number of occurrences. You're also incorrect about the automatic step one after 4 occurrences.

01-02-2017, 10:51 PM

#486

TrinityDawn

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Position: Violin on the Envoy-tanic

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Originally Posted by LongTimeListenr

First of all, I said supposedly. The CP office has told me in the past it is calls. But yet, I have also had over 4 calls in a rolling 12 month period, and not had any problems, so it may or may not be selective enforcement. The stuff about an automatic step one is coming directly from a rep I've talked to. They have been told by the company that the policies have changed, but yet aren't available for us to read for some reason (which is absolutely ridiculous.)

01-03-2017, 03:51 AM

#487

highflyer1980

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Joined APC: Jun 2013

Position: A320 FO

Posts: 501

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dacuj

Now moving to threats. This is the essence of Envoy. "Don't like it? Tough, we didn't ask you. Hey, keep your mouth shut. We told you to stop telling the truth. If you don't stop we will terminate your job!"