Originally Posted by
saab2000
Just curious, but where do folks learn swept wing jets if not in the airline world? The flying slots in the military are really measured in the hundreds or low thousands, at best.
That is the tough question now-days isn't it? There use to be a well defined hierarcy of increasingly challenging jobs with increasingly sophisticated equipment. Now it seems expected to go from CFI'ing right into a commerical airliner. For soe that might work out just fine, for some it won't. I'd hate to have to guess.
Speaking of military, it would be interesting to find out the average time of the military pilots flying fighters and heavy jets. They seem to do it pretty successfully without requiring thousands of hours.
Your next sentence hit the nail on the head.
It's all in the selection and training IMHO, not necessarily in a metric set at an arbitrary nuImber.
Selection and training. Maybe when the GA pilot is selected and trained to the same uniform standards and not just anyone with a loan application can make it through then maybe you'll have the same results.
Speaking of military, it would be interesting to find out the average time of the military pilots flying fighters and heavy jets. They seem to do it pretty successfully without requiring thousands of hours.
After our last post, I took a look at my logbook. I had 283 hours military time when I was winged and another 139 hours in the Hornet when I graduated the RAG/FRS. One month later, though air-to-air refueling qualified, I wasn't allowed to fly down to Puerto Rico for the missile shoot because I didn't have enough experience (zero really) behind the KC-130 tankers.
FWIW, I've flown with relatively low-time pilots might not be great because of low time, but they learned fast and do not require 'basic training'. They do great. And I've flown with 10,000 hour folks who scare the crap out of me.
This is an often used argument. You are right about some being fast leaners and they will be fine airline pilots in the future I bet - once they gain the required experience
I think the problem with it is that there are always the examples on the fringes aren't there, but when dealing with training and the airline world I would think that a solid play in the middle of averages would be a safer bet.
That is why people argue against the 1500 rule all the time but never offer any other sustainable figure that would pass all of the muster required of it. People don't seem to concerned with all of the other hourly requirements for the licenses.
Hey SenecaII - as said before - even if it is true that some fighting against it now were 300 hour wonders when they got hired as you say - two wrongs don't make a right. Or should we just wait util your foot is in the door and then raise them
Pack mentality? Really?
Sounds like you might not be open to others ideas just as much as you say others are not opn to yours.
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