Calling all Captains to support 1500 hours
07-16-2011, 07:01 PM
#201
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Originally Posted by Freightcowboy
We need experienced guys in the flight deck......Experience is gained when you say "Oh Sh**...I won't do that again"...in the real flying world......when I hop into my Airbus I can tell right away from the Captain...if he or she is an ex cargo pilot or not.....just the way they fly...1500 Hours...won't solve that problem.....just my 2 cents
07-16-2011, 07:12 PM
#202
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Originally Posted by SenecaII
(looking for my bow down, Im not worthy emoticon...)
maybe the captain can help me since us lowly FO's dont know how to make decisions on our own, much less fly a plane
I'm betting you teach CRM classes in your spare time....
maybe the captain can help me since us lowly FO's dont know how to make decisions on our own, much less fly a plane
I'm betting you teach CRM classes in your spare time....
When you're sitting in the left seat and making the decisions, it's a completely different mentality than being an SIC. It doesn't matter if you're flying a Navajo or some kind of turbojet, as PIC you are sometimes making some very tough decisions that an SIC isn't burdened with. Unless you've spent considerable time in both positions, you probably won't understand.
07-17-2011, 12:06 AM
#204
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Originally Posted by Freightcowboy
We need experienced guys in the flight deck......Experience is gained when you say "Oh Sh**...I won't do that again"...in the real flying world......when I hop into my Airbus I can tell right away from the Captain...if he or she is an ex cargo pilot or not.....just the way they fly...1500 Hours...won't solve that problem.....just my 2 cents
07-17-2011, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Herb Flemmming
For a while we were getting 300Hr F/O's where i work i have seen them progress a lot that past year or so, where they are up around 1000+ hrs and recently we have gotten a few 1000-1700 hr CFI's in and form my experience with that i would take one of our 300 hr guys. Yes they dont have much PIC but they have experience that i think works better in the situation.
"getting 'iced up' & in WX getting the snot beat out of him he has just proved to me that he doesnt make good decisions."
I said that cause we operate in a non radar environment. Not everyone can top the weather or in your CFI's case turn back/cancel the flight
"getting 'iced up' & in WX getting the snot beat out of him he has just proved to me that he doesnt make good decisions."
I said that cause we operate in a non radar environment. Not everyone can top the weather or in your CFI's case turn back/cancel the flight
07-17-2011, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by thevagabond
This is spot on. There should be no 121 first officers without either military or substantial and solid 135 experience. 1500 hours of flight instructing prepares one to be a good flight instructor - that's all.
Originally Posted by Freightcowboy
We need experienced guys in the flight deck......Experience is gained when you say "Oh Sh**...I won't do that again"...in the real flying world......when I hop into my Airbus I can tell right away from the Captain...if he or she is an ex cargo pilot or not.....just the way they fly...1500 Hours...won't solve that problem.....just my 2 cents
so I have to disagree with you.
07-17-2011, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by thevagabond
This is spot on. There should be no 121 first officers without either military or substantial and solid 135 experience. 1500 hours of flight instructing prepares one to be a good flight instructor - that's all.
There are junky low life 135 pilots that barely do the minimum and barely cut it, and there are instructors that are the same.
Two of the worst copilots I flew with at my regional were high time freight dogs... which baffled me. They were horrible sticks, had terrible radio work, and zero decision making ability. You can find a examples of bad pilots from any genre that you can think of (including military, though a lower incidence rate due to the training).
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