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Old 07-21-2011 | 06:48 AM
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johnso29
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer

You are the one missing the point! If 50 -seaters are not viable without the cross-subsidy by AA (basically, allocating more of fare to AE for the feed from the total AA fare) they won't be viable supplied by another airline bidding the contract unless the regional carrier bidding to supply AA can reduce costs elsewhere--can you say pilot's salary. Either fares have to rise or a more efficient way of delivering the feed must be set up.

Then, AA provides its own feed with A319 or their is relief on 70-90 seat RJs from the APA Pilot working agreement. Seeing as UAL is proposing a 95-seat RJ side letter to ALPA; DL is using lots of them, how do you think it will go?

I see some tense talking between AA, ALPA and APA. Someone is going to have to blink. AA is not too strong in the number three position of majors, squeezed by SW, domestically; by internationally by relative powerhouse DL and UAL (Pacific, especially). There are still concessions to be made, I fear.


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Delta pilot scope does not allow 95 seaters. Nothing over 77 seats & 86,000lbs(except for Compass jets grandfathered in). Until the mainline fleet number exceeds 767 aircraft, 76 seaters are limited to 153. A large RJ is anything from 51-76 seats, & those can NEVER exceed 255 total. So if management wanted 255 76 seaters operated for Delta, they would have to get rid of all the 70 seaters(which are actually 66 now in a 2 class configuration) and put the Delta mainline fleet at 801 aircraft. Considering Delta is parking 68 DC9's & 16 747-200's, while only aquiring 42 MD90's we are still 42 aircraft short of 767 airplanes & 76 airplanes short of 801.
IOW, far away from more 76 seaters.

Also, the 95 seat RJ proposal by UAL management is simply a counter proposal to UALPA's proposal that all jets over 50 seats be flown by Unical pilots. It's simply a counter proposal. As of now, UAL's scope allows unlimited 70 seaters, & CAL's allows unlimited 50 seat jets and 79 seat turboprops.

Point being, no one allows 95 seat RJ's and it's highly unlikely you'll see further scope relief from anyone. The current scope in place was a result of BK for everyone but AA, & I don't see any pilot groups budging.
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