Official: Eagle to be divested
07-21-2011, 01:33 PM
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True enough, johnso29, but it shows where the pilot's profession has gone, both in terms of pay and status. Don't need to remind me of the differences--I went thru deregulation at Eastern under the "moon man" Borman and Lorenzo.
Grew up in CT surrounded by airline pilots, solo'd on my 16th in '68, I've seen all the changes and hated everyone.
It wasn't easy then, either--many pilot strikes, layoffs seasonally, upgrades took years. Few airlines had consistent profits then, either.
GF
Grew up in CT surrounded by airline pilots, solo'd on my 16th in '68, I've seen all the changes and hated everyone.
It wasn't easy then, either--many pilot strikes, layoffs seasonally, upgrades took years. Few airlines had consistent profits then, either.
GF
07-22-2011, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by flycrj200
Comair was NOT spun offf. Comair is still owned by Delta and Screwed by Delta
07-24-2011, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
True enough, johnso29, but it shows where the pilot's profession has gone, both in terms of pay and status. Don't need to remind me of the differences--I went thru deregulation at Eastern under the "moon man" Borman and Lorenzo.
Grew up in CT surrounded by airline pilots, solo'd on my 16th in '68, I've seen all the changes and hated everyone.
It wasn't easy then, either--many pilot strikes, layoffs seasonally, upgrades took years. Few airlines had consistent profits then, either.
GF
Grew up in CT surrounded by airline pilots, solo'd on my 16th in '68, I've seen all the changes and hated everyone.
It wasn't easy then, either--many pilot strikes, layoffs seasonally, upgrades took years. Few airlines had consistent profits then, either.
GF
07-25-2011, 11:24 AM
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Ouch man, aviation consultant Boyd throwing eagle under the bus!
"The reality is the last player standing is going to be probably SkyWest because they've got the market cornered," Boyd said. "Eagle has no value elsewhere in the industry."
Read more: Analysts have doubts about Eagle's viability | Airlines and Aviation | Dallas Business, ...
"The reality is the last player standing is going to be probably SkyWest because they've got the market cornered," Boyd said. "Eagle has no value elsewhere in the industry."
Read more: Analysts have doubts about Eagle's viability | Airlines and Aviation | Dallas Business, ...
07-25-2011, 05:51 PM
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Correct, it should read "every one of the changes". Not bitter at all, I've done a load of things that I have loved in aviation, love my present job, being in Hawaii with a day off, for example. Just none of it was in the airline side which has, relative to the the whole industry, declined markedly. When PATCO went out, the controllers wanted airline pay, well, they got it 20 years later. In the 80's, everybody derided SWA pay and conditions, they are the top of the heap because everybody else fell. Guys I work with in corporates are deferring recall to AA because pay and conditions are better here; in the USAFR, I had two AA 75/76 captains taking mil leave, because the take home pay (admittedly with some tax-free pay) was better than AA's pay. Th airline terms and conditions have been brought down to the point where it is just another choice for pilots, not the pinnacle it once was.
GF
Correct, it should read "every one of the changes". Not bitter at all, I've done a load of things that I have loved in aviation, love my present job, being in Hawaii with a day off, for example. Just none of it was in the airline side which has, relative to the the whole industry, declined markedly. When PATCO went out, the controllers wanted airline pay, well, they got it 20 years later. In the 80's, everybody derided SWA pay and conditions, they are the top of the heap because everybody else fell. Guys I work with in corporates are deferring recall to AA because pay and conditions are better here; in the USAFR, I had two AA 75/76 captains taking mil leave, because the take home pay (admittedly with some tax-free pay) was better than AA's pay. Th airline terms and conditions have been brought down to the point where it is just another choice for pilots, not the pinnacle it once was.
GF
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