Here is how I'm Not missing the point. You said eagle couldn't compete because they had 37-50 seaters. As it stands neither would any other carrier that would bid on AA feed. Yes you are correct pay is an issue with AE we have a lot of top heavy pilots on the roster.
If by some chance AA pilots give in and AA begins to allow feed in 70 or 90 seat airplanes(wouldnt hold my breathe on that), well then eagle would too! We already have 50 on property. yank those first class seats out and there we go.

I'm just saying compare apples to apples. eagle would not be held to bid 37-50 seat airplanes while regional b would be bidding E175's.

 

LOL!!! Funny, and true!! On a more serious note, I hate seeing Comair all over again. I went through that in CVG, It was awful. Guys, and gals, as others suggested, in this case, history is an excellent teacher, albiet a cruel one, or is that experience-or both?

 

Delta pilot scope does not allow 95 seaters. Nothing over 77 seats & 86,000lbs(except for Compass jets grandfathered in). Until the mainline fleet number exceeds 767 aircraft, 76 seaters are limited to 153. A large RJ is anything from 51-76 seats, & those can NEVER exceed 255 total. So if management wanted 255 76 seaters operated for Delta, they would have to get rid of all the 70 seaters(which are actually 66 now in a 2 class configuration) and put the Delta mainline fleet at 801 aircraft. Considering Delta is parking 68 DC9's & 16 747-200's, while only aquiring 42 MD90's we are still 42 aircraft short of 767 airplanes & 76 airplanes short of 801.
IOW, far away from more 76 seaters.

Also, the 95 seat RJ proposal by UAL management is simply a counter proposal to UALPA's proposal that all jets over 50 seats be flown by Unical pilots. It's simply a counter proposal. As of now, UAL's scope allows unlimited 70 seaters, & CAL's allows unlimited 50 seat jets and 79 seat turboprops.

Point being, no one allows 95 seat RJ's and it's highly unlikely you'll see further scope relief from anyone. The current scope in place was a result of BK for everyone but AA, & I don't see any pilot groups budging.

 

Comair was NOT spun offf. Comair is still owned by Delta and Screwed by Delta

 

I should have clearer, DL has lots of 70 seaters, poor sentence structure on my part. Still, the economic attraction of regional airlines, flying anything from 70 seats to, even 110 seats is going to be hard for airline managements to resist. There are several planes (E190, C-series, etc) on the drawing board which only make sense if they can be crewed at RJ wages, either they fail as designs, the mainline contracts carve out a pay rate for them or agree the mainline unions change the scope clauses.

As to "unions not budging", well I've been in this rodeo since before B-scale, they'll budge, take that to the bank. Here's an example, when I was working on my private, a local airline captain (UAL) bragged the job paid a "Cadilliac a month", which in 1968 was true. And Captains lived in Greenwich, CT or LaJolla, CA. Far from true today.

GF

 

Congrats to all Eagle pilots!!! I believe this will be a good thing for you guys/gals in the near future.

 

I thought Eagle had exclusive scope over American's "connection" flying. Did this change? If so, how and why?

It reads like other carriers can now bid for the flying you have performed. Is that true?

 

That depends on what the AA/Eagle prenuptual agreement says.

Unfortunately for the Eagle guys, I imagine AA is writing the prenup as we speak.

 

I was referring to Jet Blue flying "abandoned" American routes under the code share agreement.

 

It's in the process of changing now Bar. AMR is jealous of Delta's ability to whipsaw mainline against regional and regional against regional. So regardless of whether Eagle stays wholly owned or spun off AMR is going to put it's regional feed out to bid.