dojetdriver

And the cycle repeats itself. AMR puts out RFP's, AE has to cut costs to be "competitive".

Wash, rinse, repeat......

CommutR4Life

AMR is so good at giving Eagle pilots brain damage...

PCLCREW

+1
I really dont see this being a good thing for eagle at all...

Mason32

Comair and Expressjet were stuck with a bunch of airplanes. They are transfering the planes to AA/AMR ownership and leasing them to Eagle.

Eagle has two operating certificates... one which can continue to fly small scope planes for AA... and the second which will be free to purchase larger aircraft. Eagles current planes will be completely paid off with 2 years. Eagle also obtained DOT authorization to fly anywhere under the open sky's agreement. Eagle itself is a member of the One World program and would be free to codeshare with any of the other One World partners.
It would also be free, with the larger planes certificate, to fly existing Eagle routes for AA as an interline provider like jetblue does except with larger planes.

They just did an end run around scope with the money coming back to the same shareholders.

Nope, AMR isn't splitting the stock to existing shareholders to lose value... that would be career suicide.

ingleburg5

Incorrect. ExpressJet was not stuck with a bunch of airplanes. All of the leases for the aircraft ExpressJet flies are held by Continental. ExpressJet chose to hold on to the leases of 69 aircraft in order to prevent those aircraft from being given to another carrier and used as competition. They then took those 69 aircraft and created the branded ExpressJet Airlines/Charter. Most of these aircraft are now part of new CPA's with Continental and United. What American is doing with Eagle is the same old game every other carrier has done to its regional feed.

ingleburg5

I will never say never in this industry, but do you really think that Eagle will go off and essentially create its own airline after it got burned by its mother carrier? Does that sound familiar to you? It has happened twice in recent memory and has turned out the same in each case. You are talking about immense expenses in a very tight and competitive environment. I think Eagle's death would come much quicker if this were the case.

eaglefly

[loud snoring]

Boomer

Also incorrect for Comair. As Delta owns Comair, Delta owns Comair's planes. Anything Comair leases, Delta also leases.

When Delta went CH11, Comair went CH11. Otherwise the DIPs could grab Comair aircraft because they're really Delta's aircraft.

Delta and Comair could sign a 20 year deal to lease those aircraft back and forth for a dollar a month, or a million dollars per flight hour. Ultimately, they're still Delta's planes and financial responsibility.

When Delta had Comair abandon their HQ building, who was stuck making lease payments? Delta.

If Delta decided tomorrow to give all Comair's flying to the 20 other DCI carriers, who would still be making payments on Comair's aircraft leases? Delta.

johnso29

This is incorrect.



This is correct.

ShyGuy

Are you crazy dude?! 14% of your fleet consists of 37 seat RJs, 21% of your fleet consists of 44 seat RJs, and 42% of your fleet consists of 50 seat RJs! In total, 77% of your fleet consists of RJs with 50 OR less seats. You're insane to think ANY major/legacy carrier wants 37 or 44 seat RJs. The 50 seat RJ market is already saturated and heading for the desert, I don't know what you're smoking to think your 37 and 44 seat RJs can offer to other carriers.