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Old 08-10-2011 | 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
DPA is really a simple issue. If you believe that they can in a matter of months put together the organization needed to go into section 6 negotiations and produce a better end product then Dalpa then you should by all means get your card on file and as mentioned in another thread support them with a healthy donation.
Done and done. I hadn't given until you got so upset about it.

Originally Posted by sailingfun
Keep in mind however that they need to be able to do the following and quickly.
1. Build a solid relationship with the NMB see below
2. Establish a political base in DC to apply pressure to the NMB if needed. ah, a political base eh? Why would democrat affiliated union need to pressure a board consisting of 2 out of the 3 members who are democrats with those two being the former president of the AFA and the former TWA MEC Chair and ALPA Executive Vice-President? Oh wait, maybe the DPA will need to given the fact we may be ****ing off a ALPA guy?
3. Put together a large war chest quickly. see after the quote
4. Hire a strong supporting cast. (see number 3, takes money) they'll start getting dues, they can do it, there will probably be the supporting cast types that need a job, not an issue
5. Establish a support structure for all other functions the union must handle outside of the contract. they have people listed in all of those areas
6. Attract and keep the very best and brightest people we have in the pilot group. like the types that have wanted to help their fellow pilots but learned quickly that ALPA comes first and thus walked - they'll have an opportunity to serve again, awesomeness
7. Provide the means and structure for those people to work under in what will be almost certainly a full time job for the next 3 to 5 years. not concerned

From what I have seen so far DPA can't even accomplish there most basic promises in their original mission statement and time line. And ALPA can't come to grips with the fact that RAH = Frontier I don't hold out much hope they can do all of the above and in looking at their planned structure don't see how it can work. I'm stunned you'd believe that. Certain jobs in the union for example are beyond full time positions. Hire more people, maybe stop giving so much to ALPA National? Part timers are not going to cut it in the coming contract. Okay, give 0 to ALPA National, they have enough money to live without us. DPA throws a lot of nice things they are going to do So you're saying there is a reason to go with them? out there but provides no method or real plan on how they are going to accomplish those things. Promises and results are very different things. which is why 3200 pilots have signed on I divided and unfocused pilot group will never produce strong results. no kidding. In the end the only winner will be the company. DCI is going to win on scope and the company will win on pay in C2012 if we continue on our current path

The war chest thing again - so are you saying ALPA National gets to keep all of the Delta pilots money that has been accumulated in the war chest?

Nobody ever answers that question, does all of that money go to ALPA?
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