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Old 08-11-2011 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Here is a theoretical question;

Say ALPA represents 5000 Taternuts Air mainline pilots and 5000 Taternuts Express Connection regional pilots.

Taternut mainline pilots in their contract survey and in meetings around the system decide they want better scope and are willing to be "more efficient" to get it. They're not even demanding anything but a COLA increase in pay.

The company, reading the Latest and Greatest Taternuts forum sees that's what the pilots want and calculates that by doing that they could reduce Taternuts Express Connection by 50% with a modest increase in the number of mainline pilots by 500. They could save a lot of money. They're excited.

So this would make the total pilots required is 8,000. Not 10,000. In essence it would be a scope recapture that reduced the total number of pilots ALPA represented by 2,000 and that would be at the Taternuts Express Connection level.

Would ALPA National allow that to make it to a TA?

Would ALPA National be able to "persuade" the Taternuts mainline MEC to find another way?

Could Taternuts Express Connection's ALPA MEC sue ALPA National for allowing that to happen?

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I bring this up because for some reason I doubt if you were getting a divorce you'd want to share a lawyer with your spouse? That's kind of a no brainer.

But would you, the debonair rich pilot with lots and lots of expensive stuff and a propensity for checking out real underboob on overnights, hire a lawyer from the same law firm she did?
After all, you want her to have 0% per the prenupt and will pay your lawyer an hourly fee to ensure that but that same law firm knows she can easily win per a loophole and if she does they get 40% of everything and it's so so much more than what you'll pay.
So do you really think your lawyer won't be directed from on high to, I don't know, manage your grand expectations and get used to the prenuptial not meaning what it says?
Yes, ALPA would allow it. Because they already allowed the same thing to the benefit of one side and the detriment of the other, again and again and again. Not only have the number of Taternuts Express pilots surged under ALPA signed CBA's, but they have surged precicely because of predatory bargaining at the expense of other groups each and every time and ALPA has had no problem with that. And not only that, but a large portion of Taternuts Express pilots aren't even ALPA (even if they were it wouldn't change much).

Mainline pilots can negotiate contracts that make them more competitive against other mainline pilot groups, and ALPA has no problem with that. So why would ALPA have a problem with mainline recapturing scope into higher dues paying jobs? Even if the total membership number was lower as a result, a full roster of perpetual predatory bargaining isn't a sustainable foundation even from a dues collecting standpoint anyway.

But let them withold signature on it because they are worried about their numbers. Just let them try, and watch as their numbers plummet, 5 figures at a time.
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