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Old 08-12-2011 | 08:23 AM
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Nice emotional rant.... Got any time for some rational facts?

Originally Posted by A320
The bottom line is that ALPA is representing both sides of a custody battle for flying. Raise your hands if you would use your ex wife's attorney in a custody battle for your kids.
Not true, read your blastmail from just a day or two ago.

Originally Posted by A320
That's what I thought. So let's say that United/Cal go on strike over limiting rjs to 50 seats. I wonder how many ALPA brothers at Express are going to walk through our picket line to haul our passengers. I also wonder if they will gladly pay strike assessments to support our efforts to get OUR flying back.
They will do what is legally permitted, nothing more.....And you'd surprised just how much of the majority of "Express brothers" want all the flying at Mainline.

Originally Posted by A320
In the 80's for every $5 in ALPA dues paid at United or Delta only $1 came back to operate ALPA at those carriers. Today I'll bet is $1 out of every $100 paid goes to operate ALPA at those carriers. I think it is high time for UAL and DAL to pull the plug on ALPA and have each their own independent representation.
Actually its 1 out of every 3 now in DIRECT return, and well over 50% of the indirect funds are spent on mainline pilots.

Originally Posted by A320
21 years ago during indoc at UAL, ALPA spent a few hours with the new hires telling us that "You can thank ALPA for your pay, work rules, and retirement.". I haven't heard that from ALPA in quite awhile. I wonder why.
Really? Where have you been hiding? Did you miss the 2001-2011 time period completely? Did you miss the 1998-2000 time period before that where the mainline ALPA pilot made huge gains?


Here is your homework:
Compare and contrast the gains and contracts of IPA, FPA, APA, IACP, NPA, and SWAPA in the 1997-2000 compared to those at UALALPA, DALPA, NWALPA, and USAir ALPA in the same time period.

That is the last time the airlines were all essentially profitable. Report to the class what you find out.

Bonus questions: Who were the lawyers/law firm that were used in support of a pilot unions Negotiating Committee who had the best and/or richest pilot contract? Who were the lawyers/law firm for the ones with the worst and/or cheapest pilot contract?
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