Originally Posted by
Fly4hire
And they essentially lost via settlement. The changes to the ALPA admin manual reference the suit are cosmetic, and have no material change on the way DAL or any other carrier negotiates their Scope at the end of the day
Totally wrong. The process we MUST go through before we even DEVELOP our opener on Section 1 is long and multi-faceted. To call this "cosmetic" and offering "no material change" in how we negotiate scope "at the end of the day" is your opinion only. This new process that we MUST go through is a fact - your opinion of its importance is...well, your opinion.
Originally Posted by
Fly4hire
What benefit do the Delta pilots get from (partially) funding the representation of the (ALPA) DCI??? (Remember the DALPA leadership recently cut loose Compass)
It creates unity and industry solidarity with carriers that could not otherwise afford to effectively represent themselves. They don't want our planes, they want to come work for us.
I've got to complement you here man. At least you're an ALPA apologist that understands that we fund our direct regional competitor's unions with our dues money. But again, your opinion of the "unity" and "solidarity" it creates is...well, your opinion. And if we have to purchase this unity and solidarity by giving OUR money to OTHER UNIONS, then you don't have either one.
Originally Posted by
Fly4hire
Were the DCI's not part of ALPA their would be far more motivation to undercut, and no conflict of interest for them at that point.
I have no idea what you're trying to say here.
Originally Posted by
Fly4hire
How does an inhouse union diminish in house unity?
Because there is no way on Gods Green Earth, based on what I have seen via demonstrable actions, that DPA would have a credible negotiating team in place go up against some of the toughest management in the industry (RA) any time within our looming contract amendable date.
That can only be because you've not lifted a finger to meet the people DPA would offer up for a negotiating team. I say "offer up" because all of those positions would have to be filled by people voted in by the pilot group.
Originally Posted by
Fly4hire
Just how long do you think it takes to get a union up and running and developing a working (even if not "engagement") relationship with a company? I'd like to see a new improved PWA sooner than later
It can be done in a snap! There are a ton of people on the Delta seniority list that are talented and capable and ready to serve. They just don't want to serve a union that is behaving like Hoffa's teamsters...but only behaving that way amongst its own members with whom they disagree.
Originally Posted by
Fly4hire
As to the effort itself, it does not IMO hurt our ability *at the moment*, but will once we get into the thick of negotiations, and certainly come time to vote on a TA or strike - it will give management the ability to appeal to splinter group interests directly to influence the outcome.
And as we approach crunch time (voting on a TA), if DPA has not yet been voted in, DPA will undoubtedly go on pause status. But until then, DPA will continue to grow, and hold that gun to the heads of our MEC during this Section 6. That's exactly how it should be.
Carl