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Old 10-11-2011 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly4hire
While the DPA claims to be a grass roots organization with 3700 members, typically less than 30 people show up at a LEC meeting for a base with thousands of pilots. I have a hard time making the jump from the current apathy to the claimed effectiveness of DPA given that these same grass roots proponents don't show up and vote and could literally remake the MEC in short order should they not be as apathetic as everyone else.
As has been stated here many times, the "effectiveness" of the DPA will only be possible when it is voted in as the bargaining agent for Delta pilots. Until then, any activity to try to use its numbers to "remake" the MEC would only be met by more rules changes and other blocking actions by ALPA national. It would fail because we would be playing in ALPA's back yard under ALPA's rules. Rules that ALPA has already shown us they are willing to completely ignore.

Originally Posted by Fly4hire
Based on objective measures, and the battles that lie ahead from contractual to industry to legislative, there is no way I can see the proposed alternative agent being more effective than what we have, thorns and all, and would likely be far less effective.
ALPA has proven itself to be utterly ineffective in the subjects you state above. They simply cave in to the majority opinion at the table. Then they explain to us that they really didn't cave in at all. So you're right in one regard, DPA couldn't possibly be worse.

Originally Posted by Fly4hire
Cartoons! Awesome! Now I know we have a true ALPA apologist in our midst. You can always tell by the use of a cartoon to make your opponents look: crazy/silly/dumb/cartoonish. This tactic has really worked well to stop the advancement of DPA cards. Suggest you continue it.

Carl
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