Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that this would become a substandard contract. I do a agree with you, this is garbage and we shouldn't engage in concession negotiations. What I don't see is how this contract would allow AMR to have the most lowest cost and drag down pay at other regionals. The Eagle pay would be predicated on other carriers. As other carriers pay increases or decreases so will Eagle pay. I think is sh!t, I think we should just wait and see how things pan out because it does;t matter who we belong to if AMR goes BK we will be affected. BuI just don't see how it would force other carriers to crumble. AMR is doing the same things other carriers do. Other carriers shift the flying around, AMR will shift Eagle pay to match other carriers and shift the airplanes around. Eagle Management is AMR Management, even if Eagle is spun it will still be controlled by AMR. Why do you think the pilots are negotiating with AMR for a better ASA, Spin or not AMR will control Eagle. Our Union Leadership that is negotiating this contract are on a special assignment paid by the company. So in reality the company is negotiating with the company and the pilots are just along for the ride. Pilots get to vote, but if they grandfather the Captains, and half the FO get to vote you get the idea how this will go. All Captains at Eagle either will receive a pay increase or maintain their current pay, all FO will take pay cuts when they upgrade compared to the current contract.