American Eagle reaches TA w/ pilots
10-24-2011 | 04:27 PM
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10-24-2011 | 04:36 PM
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Also if Eagle is among the highest-paid in terms of payscale then it's not reasonable to assume we can negotiate a pay raise when the contract expires anyway. We may argue for a raise, and management will use our competitors to show we are overpaid and then we will settle in between.
You're destined to be bottom feeders.
I am not for or against the TA at this point until all the merits are evaluated against what we can get otherwise. It's easy for someone to get on here and pontificate to us all the negatives of this TA based on some of the language, but practically-speaking what is in our overall best interest?
10-24-2011 | 04:38 PM
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I see.........since you'll be "gone" one way or the other, why not screw those who may not be so lucky. This is the philosophy of why this pilot group is in such peril; Eagle's done so much hiring recently, they are littered with either the clueless, the easily manipulated or the just plain self-serving.
10-24-2011 | 05:33 PM
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What are the airlines to be used in the longevity comparison? Skywest, Republic, Pinnacle, etc. Eagle has been hiring considerably more pilots recently, and if senior CAs start going to AA then the longevity disparity should shrink quite a bit.
Also if Eagle is among the highest-paid in terms of payscale then it's not reasonable to assume we can negotiate a pay raise when the contract expires anyway. We may argue for a raise, and management will use our competitors to show we are overpaid and then we will settle in between.
I am not for or against the TA at this point until all the merits are evaluated against what we can get otherwise. It's easy for someone to get on here and pontificate to us all the negatives of this TA based on some of the language, but practically-speaking what is in our overall best interest?
Also if Eagle is among the highest-paid in terms of payscale then it's not reasonable to assume we can negotiate a pay raise when the contract expires anyway. We may argue for a raise, and management will use our competitors to show we are overpaid and then we will settle in between.
I am not for or against the TA at this point until all the merits are evaluated against what we can get otherwise. It's easy for someone to get on here and pontificate to us all the negatives of this TA based on some of the language, but practically-speaking what is in our overall best interest?
So, you can expect pay cuts when your longevity level is reduced.
10-24-2011 | 06:04 PM
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I see.........since you'll be "gone" one way or the other, why not screw those who may not be so lucky. This is the philosophy of why this pilot group is in such peril; Eagle's done so much hiring recently, they are littered with either the clueless,
the easily manipulated or the just plain self-serving.
the easily manipulated or the just plain self-serving.
10-25-2011 | 02:42 PM
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What are the specifics of the other choice ?
If there are no specifics (or none willing to be divulged), what does that tell you ?
10-26-2011 | 08:15 AM
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