American Eagle reaches TA w/ pilots
10-22-2011, 09:19 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by buddies8
so vote no and tell all to vote no.
let amr get some other pilot group to try this out on.
oh thats right they dont have anyone else.
alpa is on the mgt pay package with a 10 million dollar
windfall in three years. DFR
let amr get some other pilot group to try this out on.
oh thats right they dont have anyone else.
alpa is on the mgt pay package with a 10 million dollar
windfall in three years. DFR
10-22-2011, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ERJF15
Who is gonna start the alter ego?
Just remember there is only a shortage till people are losing their jobs. Then it just becomes musical chairs, and sucks for those playing.
10-22-2011, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Wingtips
Anyone?? Including Eagle itself, at an attempt to keep the flying by working for less. Also any other airline that wants to sneak around AA scope and try and get the in as well. Hopefully a lack of pilots over the next 5 years, really craps on AMRs plan here, otherwise this will be nasty. Its likes bend over and take it now or keep your pride but we will bend someone else over and they will take your job.
Just remember there is only a shortage till people are losing their jobs. Then it just becomes musical chairs, and sucks for those playing.
Just remember there is only a shortage till people are losing their jobs. Then it just becomes musical chairs, and sucks for those playing.
10-23-2011, 07:01 AM
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We are gonna get ***** slapped no matter how we vote. I would rather be ***** slapped and at least have a shot at career progression. As opposed to being ***** slapped into being like the guys in my class from Comair that were 6 year+ FOs and now starting over as new FOs at Eagle at age 33+, while I fly with Captains that are the same age and going to J6/Atlas/Virgin/Spirit/ETC or a few numbers away from the 824.
The only time the ***** slapping will end is if the majors actually see these retirements in A FEW YEARS, and don't give all their domestic flying to the regionals first to offset the need for pilots.
The only time the ***** slapping will end is if the majors actually see these retirements in A FEW YEARS, and don't give all their domestic flying to the regionals first to offset the need for pilots.
10-23-2011, 07:05 AM
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One way or another, Eagle is going to be getting rid of all the little ERJ's and transitioning to 70-seat CRJ's. With the exception of a small number of very senior pilots who don't leave, virtually ALL their future CRJ captains will be on ERJ or ATR rates.
Also if we get rid of the ATR that pay band goes away.
10-23-2011, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingtips
We are gonna get ***** slapped no matter how we vote. I would rather be ***** slapped and at least have a shot at career progression. As opposed to being ***** slapped into being like the guys in my class from Comair that were 6 year+ FOs and now starting over as new FOs at Eagle at age 33+, while I fly with Captains that are the same age and going to J6/Atlas/Virgin/Spirit/ETC or a few numbers away from the 824.
The only time the ***** slapping will end is if the majors actually see these retirements in A FEW YEARS, and don't give all their domestic flying to the regionals first to offset the need for pilots.
The only time the ***** slapping will end is if the majors actually see these retirements in A FEW YEARS, and don't give all their domestic flying to the regionals first to offset the need for pilots.
10-23-2011, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by bailee atr
Not true. The total amount of pilots in each band is in direct proportion to each fleet size. If we park all ATRs and EMJs and replace them with CRJ7 we all get CRJ7 pay.
Also if we get rid of the ATR that pay band goes away.
Also if we get rid of the ATR that pay band goes away.
Management can persue the arbitration process if necessary to recalculate longevity/rates downward yearly thereafter, ensuring you are "competitive" pilots.....another word is "cheap".
You're screwed.
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