Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
Look sailing, I know this is difficult for you to believe. You've never believed any of us former NWA guys when we tried to tell you that our pay has gone backward AFTER the merger. The rates went up, but our pay went DOWN.
Look at the 747 captain lines recently. Many, many are BELOW 70 hours. Our ALV this month is 72. Often times I bid reserve so that I can make at least 70 hours. As far as open time, forget about it. You can make up all the numbers you want about average time being 87 hours per month, but it's just not true. The truth is that I make just under 40,000 more per year than the AVERAGE Southwest Airlines copilot. No amount of dreamweaving on your part will change those facts dude.
Carl
Carl, I have no doubt that your line statistics are accurate. You however leave out just a few things like Vacation pay, Reroute Pay, Training Pay, White Slips, Greenslips ect.... They actually pay you for those things also. Some pilots choose to make as little as possible. Others choose to make as much as they can. As I mentioned the average pilot at Delta credits about 87 hours a month.
Your statement was simple. You said the AVERAGE SW copilot makes WAY more then the AVERAGE DELTA CAPTAIN.
Sadly after having it up only 5 minutes I had to pull my bet post with Carl after being told you can't gamble here. I could have used the money. I ask again CARL to produce numbers backing your statement the AVERAGE COPILOT at SW make more then the AVERAGE CAPTAIN at DELTA. Cite a source. I will give you the MIT data mined from airline government reports.
In 2010 a year without profit sharing the average PILOT at Delta made 142K. The average pilot at SW made 166K. 2011 will be closer since we had a 4 percent raise. That is from government form 40 reports.
In no way am I saying that we make enough or make what SW is making. What I am saying is that you lose all credibility when you make statements like THE AVERAGE SW COPILOT MAKES WAY MORE THEN THE AVERAGE DELTA CAPTAIN.