Originally Posted by
throttleweenie
I remember all too well what we gave up, in $/hour (pension & work rules are another story): 30%, plus the loss from pay-banding in '03, then another 11.8% in '05. For me as a 'Bus captain, that was 48.8%
Does anyone remember what % the other employee groups ended up giving back after the second round?
The company is in the "divide and conquer" mode, and when the F/As, rampers, and gate agents start with their whining, I want to be able to quantify who gave up what, which should help them align their expectations.
TW, S-UAL or whatever the stupid acronym is today.
TW,
Without even trying to repost all the many legal precedentsI made during both the 1113 process and round 2 (it would take too long), the calculations I made at the time (and this is providing base numbers with NO inclusion of the inevitable pension loss) was as follows:
At the beginning of the process (1113 BK round one), UAL pilots accounted for 26% of the total UAL labor costs. UAL pilots agreed to take 47% of total labor cost concessions (a dollar figure only without having the double secret numbers for QWL concessions that were made....which are IMO priceless).
For BKII, I think the company realized the pilots wouldn't step up and volunteer to the degree they had previously and might protest. In order to make that round of cuts more "fair and equitable" and to dilute any eventual 1113 dispute, the company made EQUAL requests for pay cuts based on percentage of labor group cost to the company (and why didn't we take it to court the first round...??).
Anyway, on a dollars figure only, after 2005, pilots took 42% of the total labor cost cuts. In the end, after both rounds, we accounted for 22% of the total labor bill. How's that for "fair and equitable." But, then again, if you're willing to agree to it, the court will allow it. Wedoff was not our lawyer and Cohen, Weiss, and Sh*tforbrains have about as poor a track record as any law firm....ask TWA guys.
But we saved the pension.....NOT. And gave away the store on most other subjects in an attempt to save what was gone day one. Good luck getting those work rules back and realize that it all has a large dollar figure tied to it.
And if I ever hear a 570 or anyone else say..."live to fight another day"....I'll slap them.
The day to fight came and went a long time ago.
Frats,
Lee