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Old 12-21-2011 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by OccupyRestSeat
Thanks for that red herring.

You, as a spokesman for our bargaining agent, shouldn't give a rip what the regional leaders may or may not want at this specific point in time--or try to convince me to care about what they want. Your only concern should be what Delta pilots want.

"Regional leaders" could change their tune tomorrow at the drop of a hat, and when they do, ALPA (and our money) is on the hook to fund and support them, even if it's at our expense.

Enough loophole-enabling double talk from ALPA's company-beholden waterboys. Time for a new bargaining agent.
Wow, struck a nerve there didn't I. You can always tell who is losing the argument by how many insults they throw. Right, if you can't think, then insult. I see Carl has taught you well. Your next step is to say "You don't know what you are talking about" and then hurl some more insults.

I don't care what other pilot groups want, you stated it was a FACT that there is a conflict of interest and I proved you wrong. I didn't say I was concerned about it. So, you are wrong again.

So let's assume that these other carriers change their tune at the drop of the hat. What is the substance of the Ford-Cooksey settlement. Let's put it in other terms to show perspective. Our contract is opening in April. Would you accept these terms to determine our future compensation?

  1. Delta management forms a Compensation Committee to discuss our compensation. Delta pilots are invited to the committee to meet and confer.
  2. If no consensus is reached, then Delta management gets to set our compensation to whatever level they feel is appropriate.
  3. If the Delta pilots don't like what management decides, then they can appeal to the Delta Board of Directors
If that doesn't seem appealing to you, then I just described the Ford-Cooksey settlement.


It is a nothing burger. What you have done with your DPA is take a situation where pilots are stressed and uncertain and exploited that using fear. We exit bankruptcy, we have a merger, new bases, new procedures, new aircraft, displacements along with aircraft moving around the system. Pilots are uprooted by change and uncertainty.


So, like any good populist you come along to exploit the fear. You put up a website. You scour the forums and find any topic that creates anxiety in pilots. You create this magic entity "DPA" that promises to magically fix every problem in the world. How. "By being for Delta pilots only."


I will give you a clue. Every ALPA leader is already only concerned about Delta pilots. Every concern that anyone has that actually does real work on behalf of pilots (and not thrash behind a keyboard) is just for Delta pilots. You don't need to change unions to get that because it already exists. There is no magic wand to wave, the real world has real problems and it takes a lot of time and sweat to work through them.


We all wish we had this magic wand. I can tell that the magic wand does not exist sitting behind a keyboard spewing out hate and fear with populist diatribes. It does not exist in the simplistic solutions offered by the standard keyboard kowboys. It exists only in work. Grinding, day to day, stomp on one problem and six more appear, work. Work, work, work. That is what is takes. Alas, we can see that even when motivated by their own website, the DPA folks can't even do any work. Sit behind a keyboard and generate hate and fear. Yeah, that's a lot of work.
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