Originally Posted by
BigGuns
It happens now because we do not 5:15 per day unless you are scheduled to fly on a calendar day of the trip. So if you spend a day in the hotel you get nothing. The trip rig could come into play if the trip starts early and ends late, then this could be off set. 737 in NYC has a fair number of 4 days less than 21:00 which is 5:15 x 4 = 21:00.
BG,
Its worse than that. Calendar day does not even come into the equation - it strictly goes by duty periods. You can fly a 4 day trip starting with a red-eye and then a 30+ hour layover (or as we call it in LAX - our BID package

) operate on all 4 calendar days and only qualify for 3 duty periods. At this point the 3.5/1 usually kicks in.
One more gotcha that we at DAL now have to deal with is a minimum 12 hour rest before and after each red-eye. The company unilaterally started this last summer and it has really caused the 30+ layovers to increase.
The rotation construction committee (RCC) guys in each base are currently dealing with this among other QOL affecting issues. I encourage everyone to talk with your RCC representative with your inputs on trip construction.
In my opinion the RCC guys are doing a great job. Our bid package in LAX on the 737 is acknowledged by this committee as the worst in the system but it has gotten a lot better in January - partly due to their efforts.
Scoop