Thread: What happens when both sides recall?
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Old 01-06-2012 | 07:40 AM
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Andy
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Originally Posted by DaMnad
Andy,

You consistantly say that the UAL side is significantly (100's) overmanned. I just read the Dec. SSC report, which projects manning for July 2012, and it shows only 11 extra bodies, mostly in the widebody area and many short in the bus seats. Btw, e-mailed Todd Coomans yesterday and he mentioned letters to go out next week to guys into the 6/4/2000 class, so your numbers were pretty accurate.

DM
Sorry for the delayed response. I had a full response ready to send and prior to sending, I had a fat finger that wiped it out.
Going through the first few pages of the Dec SSC report, there is a lot of information indicating that LUAL is overmanned.
Page 2.
Returning long term leaves. 36 between 31 Dec and 31 May 2012.
Short term leaves. LUAL continues to offer leaves up to 90 days. A few 777 FO leaves were denied due to manning. However, look at the leaves still in effect:
Nov-Jan 77
Dec-Feb 75
Jan-Mar 77
That’s 229 pilots on short term leave of absence.
Page 3.
Vacation Liquidation. “The company continues to liquidate additional vacation this fall/winter, especially in the narrowbody fleets due to the decrease in winter block hours. If desired, pilots should bid for 30- and 60-day vacations.”
The company prefers to buy back vacation time because it allows them to decrease the number of personnel. Liquidating vacation time rather than buying it back is another sign that LUAL is overmanned.


I can’t remember where I got the information but a DCA based 75/767 pilot told me that the bottom half of the DCA 75/767 lines were built to min hour guarantee in January. That is the fleet where I’d expect surpluses, since LUAL parked 3 757s this last fall.
I don’t have access to LUAL pilots’ line information so I can’t tell whether or not the bottom portion of lineholders are getting min guarantee or max time. If a large number of bottom lineholders are getting min guarantee and reserves aren’t being fully utilized, there’s a lot of slack in the system.

Here’s one way to see how current manning stands. Take total hours flown from page 14 of the SSC … 115,185:38.
Take the total number of line pilots from page 19 … 5402.
Multiply hours by 2: 230,371:16.
Divide by 5402.
Average line pilot flew: 42:39.
There are a few things wrong with that calculation – vacation time, some flights require augmentation, PC/PTs, etc. Even so, if you apply that formula to December 2010’s SSC report (apples to apples comparison), you’d get average line pilot flew: 45:06.
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