Originally Posted by
goaround2000
Really? You're going to base your decision to improve your life on anonymous posts? You guys are really institutionalized. Consider this:
Because you don't have a legal bargaining entity representing you or a contract, you guys have subpar medical benefits, no legal recourse on pay or work rule violations, no punitive protection from incidents or accidents (only certificate), forget the list, get with the times first, get a union any union. We talk when you guys get your house in order.
You must be a new hire.. Or you're one of those spiky hair entitled sky gods, or both. You know very little, yet you speak as if you do. Like someone posted earlier, you don't know what you don't know.
It seems to me, and most other observers of this business, that your house was the one that was not in order and it was the company you mock that has wiped up your mess. Instead of being thankful, you bite the hand that helps you. XJT was not going to be around much longer and no serious person can say otherwise with a strait face.
When there is a payroll conflict at SW, most of the guys pick up the phone and talk with payroll. Simple. Efficient. If you can't reach an agreement, a form is filled out and the reps take it to the next step to get resolution.
Now I'm not pretending there aren't issues at SW, particularly in the disciplining arena. But, there are dozens and dozens of policies that have been negotiated quickly and efficiently to the mutual benefit of both the company and the pilots. .
To the original question, one list, one independent union, limited fences for a year or so.