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Old 02-12-2012 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
A mediator must be impartial.. true. But they are not required to be blind to the corporation's makeup either. Before you label me as a kool aid drinker. DALPA apologist.. whatever, look at the rational logical argument.
This ought to be good.

Originally Posted by tsquare
SWA and DAL ARE different. They are a bus service.. providing nothing.. barely even getting bags to where their passengers are going.
On MANY of our domestic flights, we provide nothing more than SWA does. I've flown two full fare business class legs this month and got nothing more than drinks and the snack basket.

Originally Posted by tsquare
We fly to as many countries as they do cities..
SWA currentlly flies to 72 cities. DAL currently flies to 50 countries...but only if you consider Delta Air Lines to also be Aeroflot, AeroMexico, AirEuropa, Air France, Alitalia, China Airlines, China Eastern, China Southern, Czech Airlines, Kenya Airways, KLM, Korean Air and Vietnam Airlines.

Originally Posted by tsquare
different missions with different requirements of both the corporation and it's labor force.
Yeah I know what you mean. We're both airlines, but we're totally different.

Originally Posted by tsquare
I would LOVE for us to be in a position to demand SWA's scope clause.
We ARE in that position. But in order to capitalize on it, you'd have to hold up the SWAPA contract as the example to the NMB. That's something you just can't do tsquare. You'd rather stay stuck where we are before admitting that the SWAPA contract could be a huge help to us.

Originally Posted by tsquare
I also realize that in the extremely remote chance that we ever got that kind of scope clause, the ability for DAL to grow (not that we are now.. but that is a different story) we would watch the corporation shrink like you cannot believe...
And you started this post by claiming to be looking at the rational and logical argument? If we got SWAPA's scope, we would shrink like you can't believe? Therefore, we must continue to allow all this outsourcing so we can grow? Do you know there's a difference between the Delta Ticket Brokerage company growing and the Delta pilot's seniority list growing?

Originally Posted by tsquare
really be objective in how you look at this.
Tell you what t, after reading this post of yours, I'd just settle for you really being sober in how you look at this.

Carl
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