You're correct, Carl: I don't care enough to research. Maybe you've been using Scope for years before DPA.

It's just that I don't buy this "gee, I'm just trying to pass along what I was tought in the 70's" gushing routine. Your generation has royally [deleted] scope during your tenure. Every group, including yours, has traded the future of younger pilots for gains during their own career span. It's nothing new. It costs nothing for you to claim you're different, but the flip side of that is that it carries no particular credibility.

With that said, I don't doubt the ability of any 747 Captain to understand the dynamics of Scope, and the pitfalls of outsourcing. Surely, when you say you care because you've only got four years to go, you're disingenuous, but not stupid. You know that we, well... you, actually, have consistently voted for contracts that absolutely destroyed Scope.

You need to make the argument that you're different, and you didn't vote for Scope erosion, because you'd like some credibility when it comes to the subject of this thread, which is the DPA. If you're selling DPA, sell DPA. Don't try to sell DPA as a 747 Captain that is really, deep-down, a closet Scope Hawk, and it's the other guys that made you do it since the 1970's.

It doesn't really work.