Originally Posted by
Sink r8
You're correct, Carl: I don't care enough to research.
Well if that doesn't perfectly describe the purposefully ill-informed mud slinger, I don't know what does.
Originally Posted by
Sink r8
It's just that I don't buy this "gee, I'm just trying to pass along what I was tought in the 70's" gushing routine.
This is no surprise since you don't care enough to research.
Originally Posted by
Sink r8
Your generation has royally [deleted] scope during your tenure. Every group, including yours, has traded the future of younger pilots for gains during their own career span. It's nothing new. It costs nothing for you to claim you're different, but the flip side of that is that it carries no particular credibility.
We did make a mistake by caving in to management's fear campaign. They said without this ability to better feed the hubs, our company couldn't compete against the AMR/American Eagle juggernaut and our company would fail. Then they said if we allowed it, the mainline would grow because we would be feeding more traffic to our hubs. Then they said if we allowed it, they would "give us" a no-furlough clause to protect our
junior pilots in case things didn't go as planned.
They lied, and we were idiots for believing them and caving in to fear. But another fact of this history is that it wasn't done by senior pilots alone. These contracts were voted in by vast majorities (including younger pilots) who were enticed by a no-furlough clause.
Originally Posted by
Sink r8
With that said, I don't doubt the ability of any 747 Captain to understand the dynamics of Scope, and the pitfalls of outsourcing. Surely, when you say you care because you've only got four years to go, you're disingenuous, but not stupid.
Does it even matter to you that I've never said any such thing? Having only four years to go has nothing to do with why I care about scope. I care about it now every bit as much as I did when I had 32 years to go. You would know that...if you cared enough to research. Instead, you just throw mud.
Originally Posted by
Sink r8
You know that we, well... you, actually, have consistently voted for contracts that absolutely destroyed Scope.
I voted against the first one because I didn't buy the threat of AMR/American Eagle argument, and I've voted against every subsequent one. I was in the minority though. Amazing how you can know a person's voting record without caring enough to do research.
Originally Posted by
Sink r8
You need to make the argument that you're different, and you didn't vote for Scope erosion, because you'd like some credibility when it comes to the subject of this thread, which is the DPA.
I couldn't care less about what others think of my credibility. Not giving a **** about what others think of you personally is one of the great things about getting old.
Originally Posted by
Sink r8
If you're selling DPA, sell DPA.
And I do to the best of my ability. Lately though, I've been getting sold on the DPA every time I commute on a trip. Usually by a junior guy. Before I tell them I'm already a member, I ask them why I should join. In almost every case they say Scope is the main reason. Great stuff.
Originally Posted by
Sink r8
Don't try to sell DPA as a 747 Captain that is really, deep-down, a closet Scope Hawk,
Closet scope hawk? My many
public posts
in writing about the importance of scope makes me a closet scope hawk? Do you even understand the meaning of words?
Originally Posted by
Sink r8
and it's the other guys that made you do it since the 1970's.
Nobody "made" me do anything because I voted NO on every one of these. And I've done so since the late 80's...not since the 70's because this didn't exist in the 70's. Again, you would know that if you weren't so against research.
Happy mud slinging sparky.
Carl