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Originally Posted by
oldmako
I'm amazed that someone who has made it to the left seat in turbojet 121 ops has such an uninformed and distorted view of the seniority system and career expectations. DOH is the magic number dude, not the time spent on furlough. Did you just post the above to inflame or are you really that obtuse?
IOW, if you got hired at UAL while young and then got furloughed, chances are you'll still retire in the left seat of the biggest plane United flies, not the guppy. It's just that simple. And with retirements just around the corner, the ride up will be fairly swift. Certainly the furlough will suck and this "merger of equals" will set you back, but the remainder of the career is filled with potential. To imply that a furloughee of the worlds largest airline has no career expectation is just bull.
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You know Mako, that JCAB will have over 2,000 NO voters just from furloughed guys alone if longevity is not restored. And considering voter apathy in the past, this will represent a huge bloc. Plus, we have have many L-UAL bubbas supporting us.
As for SLI, twill be in the hands of the three member panel. Further, ALPA merger policy has been revised with regards to career expectations as well as longevity and will be under consideration, and well it should be.
Perhaps these who wish ill upon us so as to create their own small seniority grab and carve-out will eat their words. One can only hope.
I for one have your back, and 2,147 others.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't think furloughed folks have a vote? But my real emphasis is read the ALPA merger policy and the Delta/NWA arbitration ruling. What struck me, was the obvious turn to avoid USAIR and America West scenario. I think it could help some to better understand the approach and expectations. NWA wanted DOH and Delta had some whiz bang concept for the SLI. Both were shot down by the panel. The words " fair and equiteable" was the theme with status and ratio on the merger date as the back drop for arriving at a fair and equiteable solution for both groups. There was lots of arguments for a different date, but all attempted dates before the actual merger date were dismissed. It was also obvious, that the panel was not going to allow one pilot group a windfall at the expense of the other. I suspect we will be the same and fencing (as with Delta/NWA) will be a tool. All pilots, furloughed or not have career expectations...some more than others and that was obvious in the Delta/NW ruling. Lastly, after reading the arbitration ruling, this is totally out of our hands....So why sweat what we can't control.