Actually Somalia is the evolution of ultimate government powers competing for their own ends. There is no liberty, it has never been libertarian. Governments gone wild. As always, power is the only real goal, there has never been a revolution which happily handed over power.

I have been there, how about you?

Rather than wend our way around various topics unrelated to climate science, let us deal with a few practical and scientific questions:

1. Why are Mann, Jones and others hiding data, falsifying data, and presenting false conclusions?

2. What is the correct temperature for the Earth?

3. What percentage of climate change in the past was caused by man, and what percentage by natural cycles?

4.What effect would the UN proposals or cap and trade have on the climate?
What are the costs/benefits of these proposals?