See you do understand where we are coming from. It's all about me and what I can get out of this job. We the IPA feel the same way. All we want is a fair and equitable contract which provides for our personal needs. Exactly what you want. It's unfortunate that UPS and the IPA have such bad blood between us. If the airline structure was run like a tradition airline where you move from line to management to line then we would all be equal. But UPS wants it this way and thus you must behave this way. Do me a favor and quit beating us down. Normally we are truly professional group that you and ever other manager at UPS should be proud of. We all do our jobs with the highest regard to standards and safety. The overall safety record of this airline speaks for itself. After 4 years of lack luster negotions it's time. What we get in the end with benifit you. Coffee's on me anytime. Just look for the Airbus guy with a positive attiude. MCW