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Old 04-22-2012 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by aa73
It depends by what you mean by "out of seniority."

IMO, they are not flying CA out of seniority. Here's why: TWA CA jobs are protected under the terms of Supplement CC, which guarantees a certain number of CA jobs in STL based on a ratio of DFW and ORD CA jobs. If DFW/ORD CA jobs go up, so do STL CA jobs. If they shrink, so does STL.

So, in essence, TWA pilots have their own seniority list in STL. A pilot hired at TWA in 1988 carries around a 7500 AA seniority number, and has the seniority to fly as CA but only based out of STL, the protected cell. Otherwise, a 7500 seniority at AA is approx. 2000 numbers away from holding an AA CA position anywhere else in the system.

That's why you'll hear some natives whining about them flying out of seniority. They aren't. They are simply upgrading based on their protected seniority list.

Approximately 1100 TWA pilots got slotted in at 1:8 (1 TWA pilot per 8 AA pilots) and approx. 1300 TWA pilots got stapled representing about 46% integrated, 54% stapled. The TWA Date of Hire cutoff between integrated vs stapled is 1989.
The TWA guys got railroaded plain and simple. Trying to rewrite history with lame justifications when AA is now in BK is in extremely bad form. The AA guys took advantage of the TWA guys. The same thing just happened to Airtran guys. Some in this industry always will given the chance to strongarm their brothers.
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