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Old 04-22-2012 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by B757200ER
aa73---there was no '7 year fence around TWA wide-body flying for OZ pilots'; more inaccurate, false, misleading APA/PDP propaganda. There was immediate access to TWA 747/767/L1011 WB CA/FO seats for OZ pilots, in a percentage allowed (16% of JFK/LAX/STL WB seats). Notice AA/APA fenced TWA pilots off all 777/MD11/A300 seats, and forced our pilots from (3) domiciles into 1---STL---which APA and AA now want to close.

Your second point is interesting; yes, TWA's ALPA MEC (while being manipulated and subverted by ALPA national) could have declined to waive scope & rights to LPPs requiring neutral, binding 3rd party arbitration. AA's CEO Carty stated if that was done---AA would walk away from the deal. Many of our MEC's hard-liners wanted to refuse to give this up---but were outvoted. I would have refused---and taken my chances as a stand-alone airline. Let the chips fall where they may, knowing what I know now.

I ask you all: If US and USAPA stated they'd agree to buy AA and all assets, then merge the two seniority lists, but to proceed APA/APFA & TWU had to give up all LPPs and scope, what would you all do? Hang your hat on Horton's 1113 term sheet? Your leaders seem to think US & Parker is the better bet.

Eaglefly is incorrect stating "Based on TWA's situation (3 months operating cash), it was felt that the career expectations weren't there..." . That wasn't true, and (3) offers were on the table for our MEC Chairman to consider at that time. #1 was AMR's purchase of all of TWA's assets after TWA declared chapter 11; #2 was a large code-share and equity swap with AmericaWest, which was given a thumbs-up by most on Wall Street; #3 was a cash infusion by Boeing, management replaced by J Alix (turnaround specialists). There were other options, and TWA had more than '3 months of cash' left with which to operate.

Absolutely no way TWA would have survived without filing Chapter 11 to get rid of Carl's cheap ticket deal. TWA also wouldn't have survived after 9/11 and the recession. Where AMR made their mistake was not dropping TWA after 9/11.
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