Originally Posted by
GQpilot
Ummmmm, are you kidding? If you leave AA for a new hire position at US ,you start over at the bottom of the list, not only seniority wise, but pay wise.
No, he's not kidding. His solution to those pilots (the majority) that disagree with AMR's plan is to do just that. That's because.......
Originally Posted by
GQpilot
Are you management?
.......well, perhaps you're starting to get it.
Originally Posted by
GQpilot
With a merger the AA pilots will most likely be placed toward the top of a combined list. As for furloughs, we have quite a few ex TWA/AA pilots here. Although one ex TWA guy I know bailed from AWA when the US merger was announced and went to fly for Boeing.
Don't agree with the placement statement you make, but many here believe the worst case scenario for ALL AA pilots is being part of the US Airways merger (which will almost certainly happen) under the control of this management vs. themselves. One only needs to look at the last decade and especially the last 5 months to see that. It would seem AMR simply wants to gut the employees, THEN do the merge with U under THEIR terms (once again, BAD for AA employees). A MAJOR payday for them, if they do. It's a given that the 1113c term sheet as is, has no chance of being ratified by the pilots and won't even be presented for vote. Thus, unless AMR decides to actually negotiate during the next 6 weeks or so, they will in all probability get their term sheet imposed.
At that point, I think the pilots have even less incentive to negotiate and it will be highly likely AMR will have to plan to somehow exit chapter 11 with at least no pilot CBA and very likely at least one of the other 3 labor groups. They don't want to do that, so at that point to pressure the pilots further and now with a blank check on leverage, I think AMR will then tighten the screws I guess until pilots start breaking. A nightmare scenario for everyone, for sure. Not sure how investors or creditors will feel about investing in a powderkeg like that, so we'll have to see. It would seem that at this point AMR simply doesn't care what employee atmosphere exits at the future AA and inexplicably believes they can make a premium product with enraged, disgruntled, decimated and disillusioned workers or instead perhaps to toss the wreckage to someone else who will have to try. Again, I don't understand the investment value of that nor why a creditor would let themelves be put in that position, but what do I know ?
Aside from that, most agree that AMR's business plan is exceptionally weak and presumptuous. I've yet to read a single analysts article that was positive in that reagrd, but perhaps I missed one. Most believe the only real chance for AA long-term IS a merger and ASAP with someone who has at least a fighting chance to reverse a decade long graveyard spiral.