Originally Posted by
Once United
We all know who JP is and what he is likely to do and that is the only reason his name keeps floating to the top. I wish it was you "SoCALGuy" leading the CAL MEC then it's possible the lies and deceit would end and we could move forward. The only thing I care about JP is he is keeping money out of mine(our) pockets. He bullies and intimidate his LEC's and has absolute control of your MEC doing this. Why does he go to every LEC meeting - Kinda like a child that's being abused, the abuser tries to keep them from talking when he isn't around.
As far as "JH's Grenade" goes, I know everyone had access to this information, but it's possible that JP didn't let it go below his level. Since you seem to know a few guys on the CAL MEC, why don't you get a couple to put it in writing that they didn't have access to the information(maybe JP). That would go a long way in clearing this up. I'm sure the one-man band you refer to does not exist - A clear majority of UAL pilots know whose responsible for delaying the JCBA and it's JP.
Going forward - if you want to stop this, have joint MEC meetings. Then there can be no denying what was told and what was said. In the past JP has rejected this for fear it would mess up his plans for SLI.
To be honest, I don't care about JP - I just don't want him keeping and taking money out of my pocket and he has demonstrated that he's willing to do exactly that.
OU, well put......
I can honestly say, I whole-heartedly agree with you on having "someone" within our Union ranks keeping a "better" JCBA out of our hands (SCOPE, R&I, Scheduling, Rules, Pay, ect....) is completely INEXCUSABLE.
Let's face it (and it's NO SECRET), over the last 10 days "The Hep" has come right out and told "JP" that he doesn't like him, doesn't trust him, and questions where he (JP) stands with Mgt. With that being known, we
STILL have to get both MEC's together to get the 'game plan' 100% crystal clear so that both sides lock-step come June.
FACT: In speaking with a CAL-MEC member today, the following is true.....JP wants to be briefed 'alone' by JH regarding the plan.....JH says NO WAY. JH is wanting/insisting that he meets with the ENTIRE CAL-MEC for the briefing, and with that, I 100% agree with "The Hep" as the correct way of doing it. There has been a motion presented by some members of the CAL-MEC to have a "special session" within days to have "The Hep" present/brief his entire "game plan" for the CAL-MEC. This vote/motion's results should be known by this afternoon. I HOPE is passes, and we get to crack'in so pads.
Here's the rub.....You, I, and most everyone knows that BOTH Master-Chairs have an ego that needs to tempered so that WE can get together to make the "meeting of the minds" (JP, JH, and MEC's) run productively so that BOTH sides are in FULL (or compromised) agreement. Stating the obvious, we DON'T have a lot of time, and we both know that this needs to be done "yesterday" in order to make "Hep's" announcement gain full traction/support. To have "The Hep" say 'my way, or the highway' WON'T work.....same as JP saying brief me 'solo', or no cigar. Compromise of plan/path to make this unified is the ONLY way this is gonna work. Without that, any divided stance we make is 'lame' at best. If we CAN'T do this, I would just about throw in the towel.
Through all this, my question is "where has Lee been all this time prior to yesterday"?!?!? Well, I have also heard that Moak has a 'game plan' of his own in which he plans to bring to table within days. Knowing
NOTHING about his plan (taking Hep's page, JP's page, or coming up with his own hybrid??), I
hope that we take the BEST of ANY, and ALL avenues, and construct something NOW that is battle ready.
Bottom line....In the what I've heard within the last 24 hours, we need to bury ANY/ALL ego's.....and that STARTS at the top with the MEC-Chairs. I'm in agreement with you OU, let's make sure that ANY/ALL "riches" we have coming to us NOT be precluded by those who are willing to check their ego's at the door when it comes time to do business/battle. If not, this ship sails (then sinks) without us & our present opportunity is gone.