Originally Posted by
Pilotbiffster
Doesn't really matter at this point, does it ? We either get released or we don't. If we don't, we spend another five years negotiating in "good faith" with co-worker Jeff. If we do, then you have a choice to make: scab or don't scab. Live with it.
Unfortunately it really does matter.
In the past ALPA has done some good things and some pretty dumb things. The TWA DFR comes to mind. That might bankrupt ALPA.
The way the strike vote was handled at CAL in '83 was also procedurally flawed. While they were dealing with "co-worker Lorenzo" back then, not much has changed. No one likes the way the strike vote came down. While it was a job action and all that goes with it, it was ill-timed, and poorly planned.
I don't see Lee Moak, a very conservative, and non-confrontational ALPA President violating CBL just so we can "live with it." This would be the end of ALPA if he screws it up, and while TWA may bankrupt ALPA, a goof up here would drive it into the ground in less than 90 days.
Let's be careful what we "live with."
I am all for a release and the requisite job action, but that can only legally go one of three ways:
1. UAL gets released
2. CAL gets released
3. CAL/UAL both get released
Right now, Happner is only asking for HIS UAL pilots. If the UAL has a seperate section 6 process that was formally opened, then that is fine.
BTW, CAL MEC currently does have a seperate and legally binding section 6 position with the NMB and has since 2008. Not sure if UAL does.
We can do it jointly or alone, but it would be better if both MEC's get on the same page and pretty quick.