Originally Posted by
ayecarumba
I've heard it said that in business, you never accept a first offer and that if you're not willing to say "NO", then you're not really negotiating.
I guess we're at the point in the new car negotiation where the salesman says "I gotta talk to my manager." and we say the same thing and turn to our wife. ha ha.
This point was reached weeks ago - by the NC.
Go to a road show. Email/call reps and ask hard questions. . Focus on facts that can be verified then vote - yes or no.