Originally Posted by
slowplay
That's conventional wisdom, but is it true?
APA, UAL and CAL don't allow 76 seaters in the small portion of their scope. How has career progression worked out at each one of those carriers?
APA - furloughs
UAL - furloughs
CAL - furloughed in 2008, recalled, slow hiring of furloughed UAL pilots
DAL - no furloughs, small (300) hiring in 2010.
Why is it that the airline with the "weakest" small jet scope never furloughed and the tighter guys did?
How many pilots did CAL hire after 2005? That number would be about 25% of their pilot group. They furloughed some but go and talk to their pilots and find out how understaffed they were before and after the furlough. You might be surprised at what they say.
Ask yourself this when it comes to scope. How big were the majors 20 - 15 - 10 years ago vs. the regionals and then compare that to today? You still gonna make the argument that outsourcing is good?
Here's a thought to your question but maybe the airline with the weakest scope undercut those other airlines. Ever think of that? Maybe they just had poor management that couldn't run the airline and it really didn't have much to do with scope at all?