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-Cost of this contract is $420 million. This was vehemently challenged by several in the group, citing the Detroit rep's widely known assertion that this is a cost-neutral contract. Tim stated that the cost-neutral statement was mostly for Wall St., and that a cost neutral claim would have to include the added revenue from both the CRJ900s and the 717s. There would be no other way to get to that number.
To those of you (apparently including our union) willing to bite and swallow hook, line and sinker at any fancy leather bound accounting books "Get a Yes Vote on C2012" management marketing group put together.....try to think back at least one or more years (see article below).
If you haven't learned anything yet, please know this:
Management will tell you virtually anything it needs to tell you to get what it wants. They know later they can simply say "things didn't work out as planned so we didn't end up growing and had no choice but to (fill in the blank)". We understand your frustration but that's just the way the cookie crumbles. I fully expect Slowplay and the management/ALPA sales group to unapologetically say the same thing.... probably with disdain in their tone for you not seeing how the economy later on changed the course of promises made.
To illustrate my point further, do you remember how the new flight time duty time rules were going to bankrupt the airlines and cause huge job layoffs according to ATA (now A4A), Delta Airlines and the consulting groups they paid large sums of money to produce?
Now that the FTDT rules are passed what are we hearing from management? "They won't appreciably effect our staffing or operation". Gee, now how could that be so when they were crying uncle less than a year ago? I will tell you the answer....THEY DON'T TELL THE TRUTH WHEN THEY ARE CHASING SOMETHING THEY WANT!
You are a class A1 sucker if you believe anything/everything coming from the management/ALPA marketing group. Even basic common sense will tell you some of the things you are hearing now don't add up. Go with your instinct, not the fairytale words of those selling you of "bigger exciting things" if we pass this (they will never materialize) and "it's best to always take the first offer and not complain".
Vote no and take a little pride in yourself and your career, not just lap up the scraps lying under the table. Good luck to all of us and the profession if we continue to give away our flying (large RJ's is our flying before someone trys to tell me again it is a victory to trade 50 seaters that are already headed for the desert for DC9 size airplanes that will never be flown by a Delta pilots and be around for many decades to come.).
PS- Remember this? Was it accurate in the end?
ATA: Airlines would cut 26,700 jobs if FAA implements new pilot rest regulations | ATWOnline