Originally Posted by
APCLurker
Come on. Never say never. Force manure will be used once again and the contract will be meaningless. Did you learn nothing from your furlough? Not to mention that management always seems to "find a way" and the response from alpa is usually "we didn't envision that" or "we didn't think they would do it" or my favorite "but we may have lost." Which, by the way, looks like we gave them that one anyway in this TA.
Not only can it possibly happen again but we will have already given them even more 76 seaters via this TA.
And please don't fall for the "carrot" of 717's. If it is in management's best interests to get them, they will get them with or without the TA. Have pilots really not learned from decades of history?
Question: is it written in the ta that 717's will be arriving if the TA passes? I truly don't know. But if it isn't, then all we have are "promises." Promises of an agreement "in nature" or however they phrased the press release.
Management's desire to get rid of 50 seaters is leverage.
I also just cannot understand the willingness to make it more profitable for management to outsource our jobs.
By your logic why even have a contract? You're saying when times get tough force manure will be used once again. Might as well not have a contract if the company can just do whatever it wants when it wants by claiming force majeur. Also, you are asking if the arrival of the 717's are written in the TA? Again, based on your logic things that are written in the contract don't really matter, so why worry about the 717's arrival being in written in the TA? It makes business sense for Delta to get the 717's and recover some of the rj flying using them. Management is not going to lie to us about getting 88 airplanes just so we'll sign a TA. How is it outsourcing our jobs if we are bringing more flying under mainline? We get 717's and more outsourced flying is done by us.