Originally Posted by
Fly782
The SR guys want to protect and or rebuild their retirements because they lost them and do not have as much time remaining.
The JR guys want an upgrade so they can build their retirement/ make more money.
I understand both, especially the SR part because I have witnessed first hand the stresses that losing their retirement fund translates to. No body should sell anyone out but all I read on here is me me me in the form of the JR guys complaining that the SR guys will vote this in and screw them. Jack you are trying to convert everyone for your OWN self interested reasons. O and as Sailing said this is a JR pilots TA, the SR person I referred to is voting NO because it does nothing for them.
I would agree that this TA does very little for the senior pilot. That is why I try hard to understand the viewpoint of the "yes" voting senior pilot. I understand Sailing's "no".
It is apparent that a 777A voting yes on this is doing it for other than total self interest...The thing I can't get my head around is what they see in it that is a positive defensible yes vote...assuming their yes is altruistic.
I try to remove "agenda" from the debate when there is no apparent agenda presented. The agenda guys on both sides of the debate are so transparent that it is easy to just blow off what they say.
My agenda is DAL pilots perform DAL flying - whatever it takes to make that happen works for me. Pay is great, but future leverage is greater.
I think I understand T's perspective, I don't understand Bar's. There are reps who believe we'll be back at the table instantly if this is voted down and there are reps who think this is the final offer.
At the end of the day, I think it was deadhead that posted a long story that basically said "I'm okay with what we have today versus the unknown of what this TA represents." That's about where I am.